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Old Jun 8th 2006, 3:51 pm
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Originally Posted by dan_alford
I tend to gump it only for my wifes elderly relatives who just don't understand me if I speak normally. With Drive thru's you have to bastardize words due to the low education of the workforce. They have enough problems trying to understand local people.

However, my number 1 pet peeve is those damned voice telephone systems which DONT have a number backup. I get sick and tired of hearing " I'm sorry, i didn't understand your response, please choose from the following....". If I have to call one of those places I just hand the phone to my wife once I realize you cant go to numbers.
It's bad enough when the voice recognition system on my mopbile phone doesn't understand me..... all I get some days is "Did you say................?"
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Old Jun 8th 2006, 4:00 pm
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I thought it was just xenophobic brits going across the channel for a booze cruise or off to Spain/Greece for a fortnight who refuse to attempt to speak the language of the country they are visiting apparently not
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Originally Posted by Kate2112
I thought it was just xenophobic brits going across the channel for a booze cruise or off to Spain/Greece for a fortnight who refuse to attempt to speak the language of the country they are visiting apparently not

I have no idea which part of the UK you are from, but let us assume you are English.

So when you go to Scotland, Wales or Ireland you start mimicking those accents?

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Originally Posted by Kate2112
I thought it was just xenophobic brits going across the channel for a booze cruise or off to Spain/Greece for a fortnight who refuse to attempt to speak the language of the country they are visiting apparently not

Well we are British.
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Old Jun 8th 2006, 4:06 pm
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Originally Posted by Elvira
I have no idea which part of the UK you are from, but let us assume you are English.

So when you go to Scotland, Wales or Ireland you start mimicking those accents?

Or if kate2112 is american, would she put on a canadian accent if she went to Canada or a Caribean accent in the Caribean?
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Originally Posted by Kate2112
I thought it was just xenophobic brits going across the channel for a booze cruise or off to Spain/Greece for a fortnight who refuse to attempt to speak the language of the country they are visiting apparently not
Oh no, I speak English.
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Originally Posted by Elvira
I have no idea which part of the UK you are from, but let us assume you are English.

So when you go to Scotland, Wales or Ireland you start mimicking those accents?

When I go to a foreign country I dont expect people to be able to understand my pronunciation of a word unless I am pronouncing it correctly in their language. I am from the UK, I do have a southern England accent and on occasion I have changed/adapted my pronunciation of a word in a part of the UK that has found it difficult to understand my accent without feeling I have mocked or condescended their accent.
American English is rooted in many different countries takes on the English language, it is not derived solely from the British Isles. We dont have to arrogantly pronounce "Water" in the US expecting to be understood and it wont kill us to try. We can adapt gracefully or remain misunderstood.
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Originally Posted by dan_alford
Or if kate2112 is american, would she put on a canadian accent if she went to Canada or a Caribean accent in the Caribean?
She is not and she would adapt to any accent to be understood.
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When I go to a foreign country I dont expect people to be able to understand my pronunciation of a word unless I am pronouncing it correctly in their language. I am from the UK, I do have a southern England accent and on occasion I have changed/adapted my pronunciation of a word in a part of the UK that has found it difficult to understand my accent without feeling I have mocked or condescended their accent.
American English is rooted in many different countries takes on the English language, it is not derived solely from the British Isles. We dont have to arrogantly pronounce "Water" in the US expecting to be understood and it wont kill us to try. We can adapt gracefully or remain misunderstood.
I'm constantly misunderstood - it's called being married !
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Originally Posted by Kate2112
When I go to a foreign country I dont expect people to be able to understand my pronunciation of a word unless I am pronouncing it correctly in their language. I am from the UK, I do have a southern England accent and on occasion I have changed/adapted my pronunciation of a word in a part of the UK that has found it difficult to understand my accent without feeling I have mocked or condescended their accent.
American English is rooted in many different countries takes on the English language, it is not derived solely from the British Isles. We dont have to arrogantly pronounce "Water" in the US expecting to be understood and it wont kill us to try. We can adapt gracefully or remain misunderstood.
I think one of the problems is that it is the same language. I can speak some french and am not afraid of talking to french people even though I might screw up badly. Here though, I am often scared to attempt to put on too much of an accent with anyone I don't know in case they think I am taking the piss and take offence, especially here in the south with such a strong accent which is often the target of jokes and stereotypes.

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But i do try to alter my pronunciation. I'll add "-oh" to the end of words so they understand me.. throw in a por favor at the end.. and well they are just dumb at that point if they are still having trouble.

"Where-oh Can-oh me-oh rent-oh car-oh por favor?"
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Originally Posted by dan_alford
I think one of the problems is that it is the same language. I can speak some french and am not afraid of talking to french people even though I might screw up badly. Here though, I am often scared to attempt to put on too much of an accent with anyone I don't know in case they think I am taking the piss and take offence, especially here in the south with such a strong accent which is often the target of jokes and stereotypes.

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True Dan, we do appear to use the same language, but I think our experiences in the US have shown that we arent always able to understand each other without some give and take. Thats pretty much what I would advocate really. Not being too high minded to make yourself understand in the language of the locals. You dont have to mock people to imitate their language. Have you ever heard from a travel courier how Spanish/Italian/French..the list goes on ...appreciate the attempt by visiting tourists to speak a little of their language...well thats how I try to look at it. If I have to change the way I say water/chandler/raspberry it wont kill me
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Originally Posted by dan_alford
I think one of the problems is that it is the same language. I can speak some french and am not afraid of talking to french people even though I might screw up badly. Here though, I am often scared to attempt to put on too much of an accent with anyone I don't know in case they think I am taking the piss and take offence, especially here in the south with such a strong accent which is often the target of jokes and stereotypes.

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I would just feel silly...
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I can't eat American plastic cheese, it makes me heave just thinking about it!

I love their Strawberry Limeades, yum!
Ever had cheese in a can? Bloody 'ell stuffs god awful.

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Living in the south I find that sometimes I have to "Gump" my accent to get people to understand me. The word that causes the most problems for me
is strawberry. In the south it is pronounced strawbry, with the r almost being silent. Everytime I order a milkshake it is a russian roulette what flavor I will get.
Eh? We say STRAW-bear-ee here .... though granted Texas is its own country.

however if I am in the UK I will say "strawb'ry" and "raz'b'ry" -- not really changing ACCENT but pronunciation.

And I ask for ice cubes.... failing that, frozen water, ice klontjes (it's something like that in Dutch!), hielo, glace, whatever.
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