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Old Apr 29th 2010, 10:01 am
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I have sat through CPS court cases and seen parents have their parental rights terminated and everyone in the courtroom has known that the parents were in the country illegally and yet they have still just walked away.

I'm not saying it's right or wrong or if they should have been turned over to ICE and deported but if the court system is not bothered when the "illegal" person is sitting right there in a court then who is bothering??
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Old Apr 29th 2010, 10:06 am
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Originally Posted by Sugarmooma
I have sat through CPS court cases and seen parents have their parental rights terminated and everyone in the courtroom has known that the parents were in the country illegally and yet they have still just walked away.

I'm not saying it's right or wrong or if they should have been turned over to ICE and deported but if the court system is not bothered when the "illegal" person is sitting right there in a court then who is bothering??
What power does a state court have over immigration matters? The answer is none whatsoever -- immigration is an exclusive federal matter.
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Originally Posted by fatbrit
What power does a state court have over immigration matters? The answer is none whatsoever -- immigration is an exclusive federal matter.
why do the courts not report to ICE.. the DOC report to ICE if someone is in prison..
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Old Apr 29th 2010, 10:19 am
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Originally Posted by candy wy.
why do the courts not report to ICE.. the DOC report to ICE if someone is in prison..
What business does a family court have enforcing federal immigration law? Answer: none at all!

I think it would be rather worrying if we cut out the right for anyone to petition a court by stating that the court would report your immigration status to the federal authorities. In a custody battle for a child, for example, custody should not be automatically assigned to the person who is here legally simply because the other parent is too scared to appear.
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Originally Posted by fatbrit
What business does a family court have enforcing federal immigration law? Answer: none at all!

I think it would be rather worrying if we cut out the right for anyone to petition a court by stating that the court would report your immigration status to the federal authorities. In a custody battle for a child, for example, custody should not be automatically assigned to the person who is here legally simply because the other parent is too scared to appear.
what then happens to the child when Immigration do catch up with the illegal.. you get into a bigger mess with possible child abduction
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Originally Posted by sir_eccles
If you are against knowingly hiring illegal workers I assume there is a long line of out of work bankers and perhaps car assembly workers down from Detroit who are fighting eachother for the hard back breaking work in the fields or what not?
They'd not take the work, not because it is beneath them, but because after a few hours minimum wage, they'd lose unemployment and being down on salary as it, that would be a massive massive drop in income when you've got commitments, you'd hang on to the unemployment in that situation.
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Illegals aren't just Mexicans. Would people turn in illegal Brits?
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Originally Posted by zargof
I don't think I would turn someone in if I knew they were here illegally, but there is no way I would knowingly hire them.
Ditto.
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Originally Posted by Sally Redux
Illegals aren't just Mexicans. Would people turn in illegal Brits?
So far haven't we had a unanimous response that people wouldn't turn in illegal Mexicans? I assume that means that nobody here would turn in illegal Brits either.
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Originally Posted by Bob
They'd not take the work, not because it is beneath them, but because after a few hours minimum wage, they'd lose unemployment and being down on salary as it, that would be a massive massive drop in income when you've got commitments, you'd hang on to the unemployment in that situation.
So what you are in a sense saying is that the immigrants are not stealing our jobs.
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Originally Posted by dbj1000
So far haven't we had a unanimous response that people wouldn't turn in illegal Mexicans? I assume that means that nobody here would turn in illegal Brits either.
They might. I just wondered why it was assumed illegal immigrants were all Mexicans.
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Originally Posted by candy wy.
what then happens to the child when Immigration do catch up with the illegal.. you get into a bigger mess with possible child abduction
So you believe a civil court should solve a dispute according to someone's immigration status?
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Originally Posted by Sally Redux
Illegals aren't just Mexicans. Would people turn in illegal Brits?
That would cull half of Boston in that case
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Originally Posted by sir_eccles
So what you are in a sense saying is that the immigrants are not stealing our jobs.
damn right...if I took a minimum wage job, I'd be down $2hr paying for childcare at the very minimum, probably closer to $7hr down and I'd hit my threshold of losing unemployment completely if I did more than 2 days a week of minimum wage work...and when tax is taken out on top, I'd be even in worse shape.
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Originally Posted by Sally Redux
They might. I just wondered why it was assumed illegal immigrants were all Mexicans.
That's a good point, I know that not all illegals are Mexican, I guess that's the fault of the media, don't often get news stories about ilegals from other Countries...I suspect that apart from over staying on a visitor visa, it's a helluva lot more difficult for a Brit too get here without a visa
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