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HeadingNorth Jun 2nd 2011 6:20 pm

Telling it How it is.
 
Well for those thinking of coming to Canada-you’ll read a lot of things saying how great and easy it is to emigrate to Canada, well for every one of those “good” stories you hear I can give you four bad ones.
How about the guy and his family who just got deported back to the UK after five and a half years here-just think of his kids who had been here all their formative years only to be forced back to a strange, to them, country and school system. He got deported, and I mean by that, he was told to leave or be taken away in handcuffs with two weeks’ notice, as they decided after all that time his paperwork was wrong.
What about the guy who got sick from a dirty truck and ended up going to hospital, only to receive a bill for $650 for health care as his work permit had expired and he was still waiting for a replacement as the governments waiting times are so long.
Don’t forget until you have PR you basically stuck with the same company as it’s tough to find places with LMOs.
Yesterday I got a phone call from CIC telling me ,after six months, they wanted another $200,on top of the $300 I paid them six months ago, before I can have a work permit-all down to their mistake on the last permit.
To those not familiar with the requirements and processing times:
Work permits are taking at least six months to process right now-If you don’t have a work permit:
You are not entitled to medical cover, schooling for your children and will not be able to return to Canada if you leave the country-now try complying with the requirements of being a long haul truck driver for immigration purposes, especially if you were running stateside.
AINP is taking at least 13 months for processing, plus your six months waiting before you can apply when you start at a company.
PR is taking at least 13 months at present-so in reality you’re going to be waiting at least 18 months. My application has been in over 7 months and we still don’t even know whether have officially received it, they haven’t opened our file for sure as we’re not in process.
One person makes a decision on your paperwork. They have the power to decide whether you stay or go-don’t believe me, then trying giving a Border guard some lip at a point of entry and see what happens, but they can abuse you as much as they like, and yes I can vouch for that from personal experience.
At every stage above you have to pay upfront-and just you try contacting any of the above agencies, not much joy there. I have got a Lawyer chasing our PR in Buffalo and he still can’t get a response.
So to summarise-if you like being abused, threatened ,coerced and paying up front for paperwork that may, or may not arrive, and living as a non entity with no rights for years, Canada is the place for you!
As precursor to the smart arse answers that some are going to come up with from their PR enhanced ivory towers-you got lucky that you have never had to suffer the crap that happens to the majority of the people here.
I have set a date that if our paperwork is not in process by then we will leave here as I’m tired of being treated worse than most illegal immigrants get treated in other countries and all the while paying taxes to governments that do nothing but abuse immigrant workers.

DAVIE_MAC Jun 2nd 2011 8:21 pm

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Dear Confused,


How about the guy and his family who just got deported back to the UK after five and a half years here-just think of his kids who had been here all their formative years only to be forced back to a strange, to them, country and school system. He got deported, and I mean by that, he was told to leave or be taken away in handcuffs with two weeks’ notice, as they decided after all that time his paperwork was wrong
Seems very unfortunate and a bit extreme, possibly more to the story as to what was wrong with The Paperwork...?????



What about the guy who got sick from a dirty truck and ended up going to hospital, only to receive a bill for $650 for health care as his work permit had expired and he was still waiting for a replacement as the governments waiting times are so long
Again very unfortunate however I do believe an element of personal admin might have foreseen his work permit expiring and why not start the proccess a lot sooner. You can get a work permit in about 30mins at the border / port of entry so this is a bit hard to believe. Maybe the LMO was delayed but WP nah if he sent it off Vegreville then he was ill-advised and should have known better if he already had one.



Don’t forget until you have PR you basically stuck with the same company as it’s tough to find places with LMOs.
Not true your stuck with the same company until you have PR or for that matter even in the same job category. I came as a trucker and before I had PR I gained employment as a Quality Assurance Manager for an IT company. I do agree though in some places LMO's can be hard to have authorised.



Yesterday I got a phone call from CIC telling me ,after six months, they wanted another $200,on top of the $300 I paid them six months ago, before I can have a work permit-all down to their mistake on the last permit.
Again you can get your WP at port of entry so if your running into the USA why not stop at the border on your return to Canada and get your WP there and then... $500 for what??? your WP is $180 if I remember rightly



To those not familiar with the requirements and processing times:
Work permits are taking at least six months to process right now-If you don’t have a work permit
I think you might be one of those in the above category as in unfamiliar with the application timelines & proccess... ??


will not be able to return to Canada if you leave the country
As a British Passport holder you can return and be given a 6 month visa when you arrive / land.


now try complying with the requirements of being a long haul truck driver for immigration purposes, especially if you were running stateside
Sorry dont understand this statement please can you expalin a bit better?


AINP is taking at least 13 months for processing, plus your six months waiting before you can apply when you start at a company.
PR is taking at least 13 months at present-so in reality you’re going to be waiting at least 18 months. My application has been in over 7 months and we still don’t even know whether have officially received it, they haven’t opened our file for sure as we’re not in process
Quite normal in most cases. What is the problem with this and the rush. You could always apply for PR from the UK and wait 4 - 5 years. What is your concern. Your in Canada presumably doing your dream job, in the country YOU chose to come to, driving lovely big trucks around N.America (for sh*t money I might add to sympathise) seeing sights you never could dream of and to top it all nobody forced you to come and you could always go back.... I really can not see why people get so hung up on the PR application proccess.. just stick the bloody thing in and get on with enjoying the life you came to Canada for and the PR will follow..18 months later so bloody what?? mine took about the same no big deal.


One person makes a decision on your paperwork. They have the power to decide whether you stay or go-don’t believe me, then trying giving a Border guard some lip at a point of entry and see what happens, but they can abuse you as much as they like, and yes I can vouch for that from personal experience
Not a good idea really in any country. NEVER experienced this from the Canadians. Yanks yes they are just a bunch of ignorant F***wits who think they are so important to safety and security of the US of A.. you just have to humour them and let them believe like they all do that they are the greatest nation on earth and then wonder why everybody F*****G hates the P***S I despise them and just cant believe how pathetic they really are.


As precursor to the smart arse answers that some are going to come up with from their PR enhanced ivory towers-you got lucky that you have never had to suffer the crap that happens to the majority of the people here
You ever been to PEI....:blink:


Think I'll pull up a chair now and wait for Gremmie to pop along... this could get interesting.


L8trs

Gremmie Jun 2nd 2011 9:47 pm

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Originally Posted by DAVIE_MAC (Post 9406089)
Dear Confused,



Seems very unfortunate and a bit extreme, possibly more to the story as to what was wrong with The Paperwork...?????




Again very unfortunate however I do believe an element of personal admin might have foreseen his work permit expiring and why not start the proccess a lot sooner. You can get a work permit in about 30mins at the border / port of entry so this is a bit hard to believe. Maybe the LMO was delayed but WP nah if he sent it off Vegreville then he was ill-advised and should have known better if he already had one.




Not true your stuck with the same company until you have PR or for that matter even in the same job category. I came as a trucker and before I had PR I gained employment as a Quality Assurance Manager for an IT company. I do agree though in some places LMO's can be hard to have authorised.




Again you can get your WP at port of entry so if your running into the USA why not stop at the border on your return to Canada and get your WP there and then... $500 for what??? your WP is $180 if I remember rightly




I think you might be one of those in the above category as in unfamiliar with the application timelines & proccess... ??



As a British Passport holder you can return and be given a 6 month visa when you arrive / land.



Sorry dont understand this statement please can you expalin a bit better?



Quite normal in most cases. What is the problem with this and the rush. You could always apply for PR from the UK and wait 4 - 5 years. What is your concern. Your in Canada presumably doing your dream job, in the country YOU chose to come to, driving lovely big trucks around N.America (for sh*t money I might add to sympathise) seeing sights you never could dream of and to top it all nobody forced you to come and you could always go back.... I really can not see why people get so hung up on the PR application proccess.. just stick the bloody thing in and get on with enjoying the life you came to Canada for and the PR will follow..18 months later so bloody what?? mine took about the same no big deal.



Not a good idea really in any country. NEVER experienced this from the Canadians. Yanks yes they are just a bunch of ignorant F***wits who think they are so important to safety and security of the US of A.. you just have to humour them and let them believe like they all do that they are the greatest nation on earth and then wonder why everybody F*****G hates the P***S I despise them and just cant believe how pathetic they really are.



You ever been to PEI....:blink:


Think I'll pull up a chair now and wait for Gremmie to pop along... this could get interesting.


L8trs

You said it all far more eloquently than I ever could...
But here's my 2p worth, the guy that got deported broke the law his paper work may have been forged or he more likely falsified info... his fault you go.
Sick from a dirty truck, who was it Howie Mandel or some other germaphobe, and why did he not have health insurance ??? from his company or private, his fault.... pay ya bill.
So thats 3 of us that changed jobs before we got PR,, I infact changed Provinces and jobs twice, so ya aint stuck in 1 job...
And so on and so forth,
Bureaucratic cock ups happen but can be minimalised by doing the proper research plus the CIC web page has the time lines posted. I would say most if not all of these gripes are of the culprits own doing.


I have to keep up my reputation, this is just canon fodder to me:rofl::rofl::rofl:

jamesmc Jun 2nd 2011 11:24 pm

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As for the problems with doing OTR in the states (days out o canada).
you can ask to see a immigration judge. IMO.
jimmy.

flat to the mat Jun 3rd 2011 3:23 am

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Very good response Davie,wouldn't have the time or patience to build such a good reply.Know many many ex-pats and only one family went back to Scotland,not through choice but due to a sick relative back home.A mate did have his 19 year old son deported,but the kid was an idiot and always in trouble,so why should Canada want him here ?
Enough dodgy people and their families seem able to land here,that remark is pointed towards our friends in Surrey BC,but it's good to know there are certain restrictions in place to stop this country turning into the U.K.,WHERE EVERYONE IS WELCOME TO COME AND SCROUNGE OF THE TAXPAYERS !!!!:frown:and put nothing back into the country they choose to live in.

kb33 Jun 4th 2011 3:27 pm

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Thing is Roy as been VERY unlucky , I think he got here before I did , But got layed off in the recession so had to start with another company before getting his nomination Therefore had to start all over again , I'm not sure what's going on at Alberta PNP , But our nomination took three weeks to come back , Now its taking over 13 months to process , Also the PR process as lengthened somewhat , Ours taking 5 months from start to finish and after 7 months they haven't even confirmed they have looked at Roy's !

Can sympathise with the work permit thing as well , They had my wife in tears when we were down at Coutts trying to get a spousal work permit. And made us all feel like 3 feet tall , They really were that bad .

The deportation thing I find hard to believe , as it took years of courtroom arguments to deport a Vietnamese gang leader back to his own country , (Calgary ) So it cant be that easy to do the same to a normal hard working tax paying family .

I have been saying for months now including one infamous blog , That Alberta would be a place to avoid at the moment for a quick PR status , They really are making things difficult for people at the moment and I'm not sure why :unsure:

dave_lol66 Jun 6th 2011 9:50 pm

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Originally Posted by HeadingNorth (Post 9405899)
As precursor to the smart arse answers that some are going to come up with from their PR enhanced ivory towers-you got lucky that you have never had to suffer the crap that happens to the majority of the people here.
I have set a date that if our paperwork is not in process by then we will leave here as I’m tired of being treated worse than most illegal immigrants get treated in other countries and all the while paying taxes to governments that do nothing but abuse immigrant workers.

Got lucky:rofl::rofl: never heard such shit, absolutely nothing to do with luck:frown: It's not putting up with the crap, being hard working and honest and willing to tell them to shove it and move on.
You have obviously had a very rough time but that has **** all to do with the rest of us that already have pr so maybe better that you just leave now, after all with an attitude like that why set a time and date;)

kb33 Jun 7th 2011 2:28 am

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Originally Posted by dave_lol66 (Post 9414641)
Got lucky:rofl::rofl: never heard such shit, absolutely nothing to do with luck:frown: It's not putting up with the crap, being hard working and honest and willing to tell them to shove it and move on.
You have obviously had a very rough time but that has **** all to do with the rest of us that already have pr so maybe better that you just leave now, after all with an attitude like that why set a time and date;)


Not sure how many times this needs repeating , but you can't just tell em to shove it and move on , LMOs are few and far between And they don't hand them out willy nilly . If you lose your job your whilst on TWP you're in trouble plain and simple. As Roy as found out. I think all of the replies giving the OP a hard time here would be just a little miffed having been here 4 years and still working on a TWP.

Pretty piss poor response to genuine case IMO :(

flat to the mat Jun 7th 2011 5:27 am

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It might be a genuine case,but the guy starts his rant by saying there are four crap experiences of moving to Canada to every good one.Now we all know this is bullshit,so are bound to read the remainder of his post with with a similar view.
Then a reference to remarks from people with P.R. living in ivory towers,WTF,that's part of the reason for coming here,ie to better our standard of living etc.Don't think for one minute that I feel guilty for succeeding because that isn't going to happen.
If the guy has been here for 4 years and still hasn't obtained P.R.,his alarm bells should have been ringing a long long time ago,only himself to blame on that one.

dave_lol66 Jun 7th 2011 12:14 pm

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Originally Posted by kb33 (Post 9415181)
Not sure how many times this needs repeating , but you can't just tell em to shove it and move on , LMOs are few and far between And they don't hand them out willy nilly . If you lose your job your whilst on TWP you're in trouble plain and simple. As Roy as found out. I think all of the replies giving the OP a hard time here would be just a little miffed having been here 4 years and still working on a TWP.

Pretty piss poor response to genuine case IMO :(

Oh yeah I forgot how difficult it is to change jobs on a TWP sorry:eek: Just continue to do what you are doing because it's obviously working well for you:rofl::rofl:

Gremmie Jun 7th 2011 1:26 pm

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Originally Posted by kb33 (Post 9415181)
Not sure how many times this needs repeating , but you can't just tell em to shove it and move on , LMOs are few and far between And they don't hand them out willy nilly . If you lose your job your whilst on TWP you're in trouble plain and simple. As Roy as found out. I think all of the replies giving the OP a hard time here would be just a little miffed having been here 4 years and still working on a TWP.

Pretty piss poor response to genuine case IMO :(

Kev why are you defending this guy, he's turned into a Mick Flynn, all bitter and twisted with conspiracy theories and mis treatment complexes. The government are out to get him and only him, its worse than 1984, Soviet Russia and Uganda all in one.
4 years on aTWP it must be every body elses fault, coz its most certainly not his :blink::blink: I can say all this coz I'm cosy in my Ivory Tower:p

Big Truck Jun 7th 2011 3:54 pm

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The "wolfpack" at its worst!!!!!!!:frown:

Give the guy a break, I remember from his account on BTA? how he has been shafted since going over to Canada and no PR after fours years is a disgrace!!!!!!:thumbdown:

Gremmie Jun 7th 2011 4:11 pm

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Originally Posted by Big Truck (Post 9416625)
The "wolfpack" at its worst!!!!!!!:frown:

Give the guy a break, I remember from his account on BTA? how he has been shafted since going over to Canada and no PR after fours years is a disgrace!!!!!!:thumbdown:

And who's fault is that ????? not the CIC

kb33 Jun 7th 2011 4:25 pm

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Originally Posted by Gremmie (Post 9416672)
who's fault is that ????? not the CIC

Read my first post , because it ain't the OP fault that's for sure ! Yeah wolfpack indeed :(

Gremmie Jun 7th 2011 5:55 pm

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Originally Posted by kb33 (Post 9416717)
Read my first post , because it ain't the OP fault that's for sure ! Yeah wolfpack indeed :(

hes been at Westcan about 2 years now ??? and why has he not come back on here to clarify the points made by Davie ??? or is their to much truth to what the "wolfpack" has claimed...

kb33 Jun 7th 2011 8:12 pm

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Originally Posted by dave_lol66 (Post 9416136)
Oh yeah I forgot how difficult it is to change jobs on a TWP sorry:eek: Just continue to do what you are doing because it's obviously working well for you:rofl::rofl:


So how many times have you done it in Alberta in the last two years ?? Thought so , ;)yet another clever dick answer !

dave_lol66 Jun 7th 2011 8:16 pm

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Originally Posted by kb33 (Post 9417260)
So how many times have you done it in Alberta in the last two years ?? Thought so , ;)yet another clever dick answer !

Clever enough to know that if it's so important to stay in canada then a change of province would have been on the cards when he first ran into problems and could not get a work permit:thumbup::thumbup:

kb33 Jun 7th 2011 8:19 pm

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Originally Posted by Gremmie (Post 9416925)
hes been at Westcan about 2 years now ??? and why has he not come back on here to clarify the points made by Davie ??? or is their to much truth to what the "wolfpack" has claimed...




He seems to come online every 5-6 days so I would assume that ties in with his shift , and probably too scared to come back here after the treatment being dished out here .!

You're all far to eager to jump on the guy for daring to say Canada ain't a bed of roses and I personally know a few other drivers in the same situation , so most of what Roy says is true sadly .. :(

kb33 Jun 7th 2011 8:28 pm

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Originally Posted by dave_lol66 (Post 9417276)
Clever enough to know that if it's so important to stay in canada then a change of province would have been on the cards when he first ran into problems and could not get a work permit:thumbup::thumbup:


Ahh so were all supposed to be clairvoyants now are we ? And predict just what Alberta Pnp will do next . I mean I could have told you processing times will go from three weeks to 13 months then predict CIC will get a back log and put further delays into the process , something that will affect everyone no matter what province your applying from .'

Things just ain't as simple as a few years ago when most of us gained PR

Big Truck Jun 7th 2011 8:47 pm

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Originally Posted by Gremmie (Post 9416925)
hes been at Westcan about 2 years now ??? and why has he not come back on here to clarify the points made by Davie???

Might be wrong but is Davie now not working in Iraq rather than driving truck in Canada?!!!!!!:confused:

If true what does that tell you?:blink:

Gremmie Jun 7th 2011 9:50 pm

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Originally Posted by Big Truck (Post 9417382)
Might be wrong but is Davie now not working in Iraq rather than driving truck in Canada?!!!!!!:confused:

If true what does that tell you?:blink:

He got a dream job offer in Iraq :blink::blink: thats what it tells us.:frown:
Wonder what your next comment is going to be.:rofl:

Gremmie Jun 7th 2011 9:56 pm

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Originally Posted by kb33 (Post 9417292)
He seems to come online every 5-6 days so I would assume that ties in with his shift , and probably too scared to come back here after the treatment being dished out here .!

You're all far to eager to jump on the guy for daring to say Canada ain't a bed of roses and I personally know a few other drivers in the same situation , so most of what Roy says is true sadly .. :(

I very much doubt Roy is to scared :huh: hes been at Westcan for more than 2 years now and is still farting about on a WP, then hes doing some thing wrong some where, coz he new the time lines 2 years ago and even started a thread highlighting the plight of a German family way back then. yes the we got on his case, specialy after throwing down the gauntlett about us being in Ivory towers, :thumbdown:

kb33 Jun 7th 2011 10:16 pm

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[QUOTEIf true what does that tell you][/QUOTE]


It tell you that he no longer drives a truck in Canada but now works in Iraq :confused:

Anyway Davie as far better skills than truck driving :thumbup:

kb33 Jun 7th 2011 11:23 pm

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Originally Posted by Gremmie (Post 9417535)
I very much doubt Roy is to scared :huh: hes been at Westcan for more than 2 years now and is still farting about on a WP, then hes doing some thing wrong some where, coz he new the time lines 2 years ago and even started a thread highlighting the plight of a German family way back then. yes the we got on his case, specialy after throwing down the gauntlett about us being in Ivory towers, :thumbdown:


Its not him farting about , As I have said its the PNP/CIC time-lines that have changed and for the worse . They basically want you to put your life on hold while they get their act together, He as far more patience than I would have that's for sure.

When I first read the thread and no replies I just sat back and waited , I knew it would get nasty and the PR/Ivory towers comment would wind some up , But I knew from FB how the guy was feeling and he was getting more and more frustrated with the whole process and this was were he eventually vented those frustration's , Cases like this we should all show our support and back the guy ;)

flat to the mat Jun 8th 2011 2:03 am

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BT,you know nothing about the immigration system here so please keep your pointed remarks to yourself.

KB33,so are you saying that all West-Can expats arriving here during the last 4 years are still on a work permit ? I very much doubt it but feel free to put me right.

kb33 Jun 8th 2011 2:31 am

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:huh:

Originally Posted by flat to the mat (Post 9417962)
BT,you know nothing about the immigration system here so please keep your pointed remarks to yourself.

KB33,so are you saying that all West-Can expats arriving here during the last 4 years are still on a work permit ? I very much doubt it but feel free to put me right.


No there not and I'm proof of that , but as I said Roy was unlucky and got laid of with the original company he came out with then had to start the process again, in the meantime Alberta PNP started playing hard to get and the nomination thing took forever and that coincided with big backlogs at the PR stage . All of which isn't Roy's fault, he was just plain unlucky.

flat to the mat Jun 8th 2011 2:44 am

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Fair comment,but if he got laid off through no fault of his own why wasn't the provincial nomination carried over to his next employer rather than starting all over again ?

kb33 Jun 8th 2011 3:10 am

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Originally Posted by flat to the mat (Post 9418018)
Fair comment,but if he got laid off through no fault of his own why wasn't the provincial nomination carried over to his next employer rather than starting all over again ?


He never got the nomination , In Alberta you have a six to nine month wait after you start work with your employer before you can even send your paperwork off for nomination , Then its a 13 month wait to find out if your successful . If your employer wont nominate you its back home or find another job and wait weeks /months for an LMO to turn up. Which is what some drivers at H&R went through.

flat to the mat Jun 8th 2011 3:30 am

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[QUOTE=kb33;9418037]He never got the nomination , In Alberta you have a six to nine month wait after you start work with your employer before you can even send your paperwork off for nomination , Then its a 13 month wait to find out if your successful . If your employer wont nominate you its back home or find another job and wait weeks /months for an LMO to turn up. Which is what some drivers at H&R went through.[/QUOT

Not looking for an argument here,but:),if it's the Provincial Nominee Program why do you need nomination from your employer ? Sure they have to fill in a couple of forms which you can provide them,but that takes two minutes.
I can only speak from my experience in SK,simple as,work for a company for six months,obtain relevant Nominee forms from Provincial Government office,next day ask employer to complete forms then send completed paperwork to Buffalo/LA or whoever is dealing with it.Sit back and wait until passports are requested,then three weeks later have one hell of a "landed party".:thumbsup:

kb33 Jun 8th 2011 3:42 am

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[QUOTE=flat to the mat;9418071]

Originally Posted by kb33 (Post 9418037)
He never got the nomination , In Alberta you have a six to nine month wait after you start work with your employer before you can even send your paperwork off for nomination , Then its a 13 month wait to find out if your successful . If your employer wont nominate you its back home or find another job and wait weeks /months for an LMO to turn up. Which is what some drivers at H&R went through.[/QUOT

Not looking for an argument here,but:),if it's the Provincial Nominee Program why do you need nomination from your employer ? Sure they have to fill in a couple of forms which you can provide them,but that takes two minutes.
I can only speak from my experience in SK,simple as,work for a company for six months,obtain relevant Nominee forms from Provincial Government office,next day ask employer to complete forms then send completed paperwork to Buffalo/LA or whoever is dealing with it.Sit back and wait until passports are requested,then three weeks later have one hell of a "landed party".:thumbsup:

Each PNP seems to be different , In the last two years its been a hell of a lot harder to get a nomination in Alberta , I know of some that have had to go back home because they couldn't get WP renewals (non truckers ) Westcan finally got caught out with the Long Haul rule , They now want to see six months worth of log books showing you have been out of the province (bit hard when your on "city fuel " ;))

In Alberta its the company that nominates you and if they don't like you its bye bye ... :blink:


Don't believe me ? more info here

flat to the mat Jun 8th 2011 4:03 am

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If that's the case it's B/S,and Westcan should've known better.
Makes you wonder,they're making it difficult Brits to get landed but from my experience around Cowtown at least,the gravel trucks are run by Indians and Pakistanis who advertise jobs in the Calgary Sun where "the ability to speak Punjabi would be an advantage" is included.Mind you half of them haven't passed a driving test let alone obtained residency,LOL.

Big Truck Jun 8th 2011 10:57 am

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Originally Posted by Gremmie (Post 9417512)
He got a dream job offer in Iraq :blink::blink: thats what it tells us.:frown:
Wonder what your next comment is going to be.:rofl:

My Comment:

Group4/Armour group/Control Risks/Century,
I know all about those "wonderful" jobs in Iraq/Afghan,
£8/9k month or $300American per day TAX FREE , thanks but NO THANKS!!!!!:eek:

Hats off to Davie though, but did he leave Canada completely then?:confused:

Big Truck Jun 8th 2011 11:00 am

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Originally Posted by flat to the mat (Post 9417962)
BT,you know nothing about the immigration system here so please keep your pointed remarks to yourself.


I see you need to go back and do a "refresher course" yourself!!!!!!!!!!!:rofl:

Roy has been well and truly SHAFTED by two Canadian trucking companies and CIC, PERIOD!!!!!!!:thumbdown:

kb33 Jun 8th 2011 2:47 pm

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Originally Posted by Big Truck (Post 9418715)
I see you need to go back and do a "refresher course" yourself!!!!!!!!!!!:rofl:

Roy has been well and truly SHAFTED by two Canadian trucking companies and CIC, PERIOD!!!!!!!:thumbdown:


Ermm no actually that's not true , he got laid off at the first one and westcan gave him a job in his hour of need , CIC are just taking longer to process applications which affects everyone not just truck drivers in Alberta .

DAVIE_MAC Jun 8th 2011 7:10 pm

Re: Telling it How it is.
 

Originally Posted by Big Truck (Post 9418707)
My Comment:

Group4/Armour group/Control Risks/Century,
I know all about those "wonderful" jobs in Iraq/Afghan,
£8/9k month or $300American per day TAX FREE , thanks but NO THANKS!!!!!:eek:

Hats off to Davie though, but did he leave Canada completely then?:confused:


The job I now do is Logistics Manger for all of Iraq for a company providing services to the Oil & gas industry which as Gremmie said was too good an offer to turn down.

Bit off the mark BT with the wages and working in dangerous & remote regions is not for everyone.

HeadingNorth Jun 8th 2011 9:22 pm

Re: Telling it How it is.
 
First off- I only get home after a six day shift and there ain't no signals of any sorts in mountain mines to allow me to respond and defend myself against the anticipated onslaught of responses.
The reason for the post is to point out to people who are thinking of coming to Canada that there is another side to the story. I read blogs and saw all the good side posted loud and clear everywhere when researching coming to Canada, but nobody said anything about the bad side, so how can anyone researching coming here make a truly informed decision?
KB33 is here in Alberta and has seen the problems that are occurring here, he was also very helpful in getting me a job with my current employer during a very difficult time. I am extremely grateful to Kevin for his help and it’s a shame more people can’t take a more balanced opinion on this forum as Kevin does.
There are 13 drivers in my “group” alone, at WBT all at roughly the same stage in their application for PR,and all but one have been in Canada for many years and have had multiple problems during their time here, and no, not through their own faults. So, I am far from being unique in my situation, which is why I believe it is important and fair for people to see the other side of the coin so to speak.
How is it if anyone dare tell another side to the rosy Canadian immigration story they are attacked by the “wolf pack”?
How about anyone posting on this thread put in how long their PR process took them in total-I’ll bet you that there isn’t too many with long process times? Hence my Ivory towered PR status remark. I eventually gained my AINP, but still show empathy towards those around me who are still in the process.
As for these “easily switching jobs on work permits” remarks, if all you knowledgeable people would like to set yourselves up as part time immigration consultants in Edmonton,AB I’m sure you could retire in a couple of years as you’d never be short of clients here! It clearly states on your Alberta nomination that you must inform them of a change of employer-then they take your nomination away as you are nominated by the company you work for and will have to start the process all over again, and yes, I do know people that have had it happen to them. Also companies with LMOs are pretty thin on the ground-I know guys that have been looking for jobs with LMOs with very little success. If any one of you more knowledgeable people would like to email me a list of companies here who actually possess current, positive LMOs I will give you a share of my profits as I would be able to sell them to drivers!!!!!
Alberta, and Canada, in general are always saying “come to Canada-we need and want you!”,in 2008 Ed Stelmach,the Albertan Premier was in the UK actively trying to encourage people to come here and selling them the “Canadian dream”, what isn’t told is the all too often darker side of the immigration process.
How come most responses on here are “if it’s gone wrong it must be your fault”? Like I said you got lucky if you sailed through the process as I definitely know more people who have had it tough rather than easy, and you know what-none of them are criminals, social misfits or lazy buggers!
So I am throwing the gauntlet down to you “wolf pack”-tell us your PR process times and back up your comments with some constructive facts-you never know you may be able to actually help some people .
:thumbsup:

Gremmie Jun 8th 2011 9:48 pm

Re: Telling it How it is.
 
Arrived August 2007, holy cow been here that long now:thumbup:
So started in BC with WBT in August 2007,
Moved to Altona MB and started with Spirit November 2007
Got half killed Atlanta GA August 2008 spent weeks in hospital and then 9 months at home with girl friend, now wife:thumbup:
Received new LMO as dispatcher from MB PNP under special circumstances ( unable to drive semi with mangled arm) received PR through Spousal route Feb 2010.

HeadingNorth Jun 8th 2011 9:52 pm

Re: Telling it How it is.
 

Originally Posted by dave_lol66 (Post 9414641)
Got lucky:rofl::rofl: never heard such shit, absolutely nothing to do with luck:frown: It's not putting up with the crap, being hard working and honest and willing to tell them to shove it and move on.
You have obviously had a very rough time but that has **** all to do with the rest of us that already have pr so maybe better that you just leave now, after all with an attitude like that why set a time and date;)

Dave it's very tough to move on in Alberta,that's what makes it tough-putting up with crap you'd never put up with in your life before!

You want hard working-try coming with me for a trip delivering fuel to mountain mines-two set of chains on in a foot of mud every day-nobody else will do the job for long,they ain't tough enough-that's why I do it-because I can!!!!!

HeadingNorth Jun 8th 2011 9:53 pm

Re: Telling it How it is.
 

Originally Posted by Gremmie (Post 9420222)
Arrived August 2007, holy cow been here that long now:thumbup:
So started in BC with WBT in August 2007,
Moved to Altona MB and started with Spirit November 2007
Got half killed Atlanta GA August 2008 spent weeks in hospital and then 9 months at home with girl friend, now wife:thumbup:
Received new LMO as dispatcher from MB PNP under special circumstances ( unable to drive semi with mangled arm) received PR through Spousal route Feb 2010.

Thank you Gremmie-I knew you'd be first in there:)

Gremmie Jun 8th 2011 10:05 pm

Re: Telling it How it is.
 

Originally Posted by HeadingNorth (Post 9420236)
Thank you Gremmie-I knew you'd be first in there:)

got nothing to hide, I would have had all my docs done sooner but the accident threw every thing out of whack.


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