yep it's already started!
Jan 23rd 2017, 10:35 pm
#91
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Re: yep it's already started!
Automation is here but no one is enjoying the benefits of it except the fat cats who are saving bags of money by not having to employ workers. No trickle down coming either.
People need jobs and the dignity of supporting themselves and families through personal endeavor. They weren't made to sit around living on handouts from government and confined in their pastimes because they cant afford it.
It's a no brainer that with an increasing population and little or no work that Armageddon in some shape or form will result
Jan 23rd 2017, 10:38 pm
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Re: yep it's already started!
Time for another Luddite rebellion then. Are these geniuses who design and manufacture robots thinking about the possible catastrophic events that could result from a world of automation? Do the big Corporate CEOs and shareholders who profit very well from using robots not see any signs of writing on the wall?
Maybe these robots will get so smart one day that they'll consign us all to the trash dumpster
Maybe these robots will get so smart one day that they'll consign us all to the trash dumpster
The job market is continually changing and you either evolve of get left behind.
Jan 23rd 2017, 10:41 pm
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Re: yep it's already started!
A future was predicted years ago that robots would take over most of the jobs in the world and that we would all sit back and enjoy the fruits of automation, bags of leisure time to do what we want, bags of money coming in because robots could produce twice the amount of commercial and industrial products at twice the speed that human hands could do.
Automation is here but no one is enjoying the benefits of it except the fat cats who are saving bags of money by not having to employ workers. No trickle down coming either.
People need jobs and the dignity of supporting themselves and families through personal endeavor. They weren't made to sit around living on handouts from government and confined in their pastimes because they cant afford it.
It's a no brainer that with an increasing population and little or no work that Armageddon in some shape or form will result
Automation is here but no one is enjoying the benefits of it except the fat cats who are saving bags of money by not having to employ workers. No trickle down coming either.
People need jobs and the dignity of supporting themselves and families through personal endeavor. They weren't made to sit around living on handouts from government and confined in their pastimes because they cant afford it.
It's a no brainer that with an increasing population and little or no work that Armageddon in some shape or form will result
Jan 23rd 2017, 10:49 pm
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Re: yep it's already started!
The same happened with servants with the advent of things like washing machines and dishwashers. Chimney sweeps are in in much demand these days in the UK since the advent of gas heating.My father was in a medium skilled job, Draughtsman which paid quite good money. That job disappeared a long time ago with the advent of CAD software.
The job market is continually changing and you either evolve of get left behind.
The job market is continually changing and you either evolve of get left behind.
The anger is already there and likely to increase. This last election was evidence of that
Jan 23rd 2017, 11:07 pm
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But are there enough new jobs being created to replace those that have become obsolete and with pay that allows a person to enjoy a decent standard of living? I don't think there are and as well paying jobs continue to disappear with nothing worthwhile to replace them then more and more people end up on the scrap heap creating a dangerous situation for the future.
The anger is already there and likely to increase. This last election was evidence of that
The anger is already there and likely to increase. This last election was evidence of that
Maybe they have the solution in the UK to compete with cheap labor.
'SWEATSHOP' BRITAIN Workers in UK making clothes for River Island and New Look ‘paid £3-an-hour to compete with Bangladesh’
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/268082...k-paid-3-hour/
I'm not a fan of the Sun, but they have a paywall free version of the story.
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Jan 24th 2017, 1:07 am
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Re: yep it's already started!
As others have said, it is also a bit of a first world problem - Americans have a democratically elected president voted for, among others, by tens of millions of women, which doesn't really seem to be on the same scale as the life-changing and life-threatening issues that women face in numerous countries such as Afghanistan, Pakistan, India, Indonesia, and numerous other countries many of them in India and Asia and the Middle East, and such profound things as access to education, basic healthcare, travel without a male chaperone, not be sold in a marriage contract, and murdered by your own family if you marry against your family's wishes, etc.
The problems faced by women in the US and UK are hardly in the same league.
The problems faced by women in the US and UK are hardly in the same league.
Jan 24th 2017, 4:01 am
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Re: yep it's already started!
The bbc.çom/news (which I assume is objective enough for you?) head line currently reads: "Women's March: UK protesters join anti-Donald Trump marches". It seems to rather under-play the supposed "global women's right" theme of the marches. 
As others have said, it is also a bit of a first world problem - Americans have a democratically elected president voted for, among others, by tens of millions of women, which doesn't really seem to be on the same scale as the life-changing and life-threatening issues that women face in numerous countries such as Afghanistan, Pakistan, India, Indonesia, and numerous other countries many of them in India and Asia and the Middle East, and such profound things as access to education, basic healthcare, travel without a male chaperone, not be sold in a marriage contract, and murdered by your own family if you marry against your family's wishes, etc.
The problems faced by women in the US and UK are hardly in the same league.
As others have said, it is also a bit of a first world problem - Americans have a democratically elected president voted for, among others, by tens of millions of women, which doesn't really seem to be on the same scale as the life-changing and life-threatening issues that women face in numerous countries such as Afghanistan, Pakistan, India, Indonesia, and numerous other countries many of them in India and Asia and the Middle East, and such profound things as access to education, basic healthcare, travel without a male chaperone, not be sold in a marriage contract, and murdered by your own family if you marry against your family's wishes, etc.
The problems faced by women in the US and UK are hardly in the same league.
So women have to be chattel before they can complain? Unfortunately, or maybe fortunately in your mind, chattel actually can't complain, they might get killed for it.
How do you feel about pussy-grabbing in your family? No problem?
Jan 24th 2017, 4:48 am
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Re: yep it's already started!
The bbc.çom/news (which I assume is objective enough for you?) head line currently reads: "Women's March: UK protesters join anti-Donald Trump marches". It seems to rather under-play the supposed "global women's right" theme of the marches.
As others have said, it is also a bit of a first world problem - Americans have a democratically elected president voted for, among others, by tens of millions of women, which doesn't really seem to be on the same scale as the life-changing and life-threatening issues that women face in numerous countries such as Afghanistan, Pakistan, India, Indonesia, and numerous other countries many of them in India and Asia and the Middle East, and such profound things as access to education, basic healthcare, travel without a male chaperone, not be sold in a marriage contract, and murdered by your own family if you marry against your family's wishes, etc.
The problems faced by women in the US and UK are hardly in the same league.
As others have said, it is also a bit of a first world problem - Americans have a democratically elected president voted for, among others, by tens of millions of women, which doesn't really seem to be on the same scale as the life-changing and life-threatening issues that women face in numerous countries such as Afghanistan, Pakistan, India, Indonesia, and numerous other countries many of them in India and Asia and the Middle East, and such profound things as access to education, basic healthcare, travel without a male chaperone, not be sold in a marriage contract, and murdered by your own family if you marry against your family's wishes, etc.
The problems faced by women in the US and UK are hardly in the same league.
But really dismissing marching against a man who claimed to have committed serial sexual assault and the threat to womens health, that he is already proving to be true, as being a first world issue, is jaw dropping.
Jan 24th 2017, 5:32 am
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Re: yep it's already started!
The historical solution to this has been to have a war.
Maybe they have the solution in the UK to compete with cheap labor.
'SWEATSHOP' BRITAIN Workers in UK making clothes for River Island and New Look ‘paid £3-an-hour to compete with Bangladesh’
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/268082...k-paid-3-hour/
I'm not a fan of the Sun, but they have a paywall free version of the story.
Maybe they have the solution in the UK to compete with cheap labor.
'SWEATSHOP' BRITAIN Workers in UK making clothes for River Island and New Look ‘paid £3-an-hour to compete with Bangladesh’
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/268082...k-paid-3-hour/
I'm not a fan of the Sun, but they have a paywall free version of the story.
Trump's move in cancelling the Pacific Trade Pact has just handed the whole of Asia to China on a silver platter and Australia and New Zealand will also go with China. It's not hard to imagine the Chinese telling the rest of the countries in that region that America cannot be trusted and to throw in their lot with Beijing. Brilliant opening move Donald.
Isolationist America, Europe moving towards right wing nationalism, Putin waiting on the sidelines to make the right moves and China dominating the whole of South east Asia......perfect scenario for another great big bloody war and this time it really will be the war to end all wars.
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Jan 24th 2017, 6:48 pm
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Re: yep it's already started!
Perhaps you should get in touch with the BBC to straighten them out because it is embarrassing that one of the world's most widely respected news sources still has the wrong end of the stick!
Jan 24th 2017, 6:52 pm
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There are sweatshops like that in LA, It's probably illegal to pay below the minimum wage but whose going to blow the whistle since the people employed there are also illegal.
Trump's move in cancelling the Pacific Trade Pact has just handed the whole of Asia to China on a silver platter and Australia and New Zealand will also go with China. It's not hard to imagine the Chinese telling the rest of the countries in that region that America cannot be trusted and to throw in their lot with Beijing. Brilliant opening move Donald.
Isolationist America, Europe moving towards right wing nationalism, Putin waiting on the sidelines to make the right moves and China dominating the whole of South east Asia......perfect scenario for another great big bloody war and this time it really will be the war to end all wars.
Trump's move in cancelling the Pacific Trade Pact has just handed the whole of Asia to China on a silver platter and Australia and New Zealand will also go with China. It's not hard to imagine the Chinese telling the rest of the countries in that region that America cannot be trusted and to throw in their lot with Beijing. Brilliant opening move Donald.
Isolationist America, Europe moving towards right wing nationalism, Putin waiting on the sidelines to make the right moves and China dominating the whole of South east Asia......perfect scenario for another great big bloody war and this time it really will be the war to end all wars.
China party paper says no 'provocation' can stop its military drills | Reuters
Jan 24th 2017, 6:55 pm
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Re: yep it's already started!
Today the bbc.çom/news has a story related to the aftermath of the women's marches which states unambiguously "Women's marches took place in many cities around the world to protest about Donald Trump becoming US President."
Perhaps you should get in touch with the BBC to straighten them out because it is embarrassing that one of the world's most widely respected news sources still has the wrong end of the stick!
Perhaps you should get in touch with the BBC to straighten them out because it is embarrassing that one of the world's most widely respected news sources still has the wrong end of the stick!
Jan 24th 2017, 6:55 pm
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Although no fan of Trump demonstrations against Trump are a waste of time. He won fair and square. Accept it and move on. We're not going to hold another election and make Hillary the winner
Jan 24th 2017, 6:59 pm
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Jan 24th 2017, 7:00 pm
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