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Old Jan 31st 2017 | 7:04 am
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Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing
It doesn't really matter if there are advantages or disadvantages, as a dual national, it is your right to hold both passports if you are happy enough to pay the fees in order to do so. Since neither the UK, nor the US actually prohibit dual citizenship, as long as you are using the appropriate passport at the appropriate time and place, it doesn't matter how many passports you have. I could go get an Irish passport if I wanted and I'm pretty sure there is at least one poster in the US immigration forums (is it Ian, maybe?) who has UK, US and Canadian citizenship.
But why pay for holding more that's another point? If I had ever needed or wanted to return to live in the UK after becoming an American citizen I would have arrived with my US passport and when asked the purpose of my visit replied I was coming back to reside permanently in the UK. There's nothing they could do about it, plus I have my British birth certificate if requested.
It would then make sense in that case to renew my old UK passport for travel to other countries outside the US.

One thing I was told by a US official was that if I ever got thrown in the slammer while in the UK there's not much the US consular officials could do for me since I'm still regarded as a UK citizen over there in the matter of jurisdiction

My wife is in process of renewing her US passport, the only one she's entitled to. It costs $110.00

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Old Jan 31st 2017 | 7:14 am
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Originally Posted by dc koop
But why pay for holding more that's another point? If I had ever needed or wanted to return to live in the UK after becoming an American citizen I would have arrived with my US passport and when asked the purpose of my visit replied I was coming back to reside permanently in the UK. There's nothing they could do about it, plus I have my British birth certificate if requested.
It would then make sense in that case to renew my old UK passport for travel to other countries outside the US.

One thing I was told by a US official was that if I ever got thrown in the slammer while in the UK there's not much the US consular officials could do for me since I'm still regarded as a UK citizen over there in the matter of jurisdiction

My wife is in process of renewing her US passport, the only one she's entitled to. It costs $110.00
Oh yeah, I know. My UK passport expired in 2014 and I haven't got a new one, and at this stage I probably won't in the future either as my US one works fine for now. If a situation arises where we find ourselves moving to the UK (though now our son is 18, that's ever more unlikely), then I'll get a new one but as you say, for me at least, it isn't worth the extra expense just now.

I believe that US official is correct. Likewise, as US citizens, I don't think we are entitled to UK consular services while we are in the US.
 
Old Jan 31st 2017 | 7:39 am
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Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing
I believe that US official is correct. Likewise, as US citizens, I don't think we are entitled to UK consular services while we are in the US.
Not true, you are entitled to consular services for as long as you remain a UKC.
 
Old Jan 31st 2017 | 7:40 am
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Originally Posted by hungryhorace
Not true, you are entitled to consular services for as long as you remain a UKC.
I could have sworn I read that somewhere. I must have been thinking of the situation dc koop described, then.
 
Old Jan 31st 2017 | 7:44 am
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Out of interest, how did they know? Presumably s/he used their US passport to enter the US - were they questioned about citizenship status, or was it because they used the NZ passport at the other end?
They were never told why exactly. They did use their Kiwi passports for the other end of the trip and it was a months stay. The kids were born in the US though and also given a grilling about what they were doing out of the US and questioned the lack of visa stamps considering the length of stay.

It all sounded rather random.
 
Old Jan 31st 2017 | 7:46 am
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Originally Posted by dc koop
US passports show a persons country of birth. A naturalized US citizen should never use the passport of their previous country. The INS don't like it
INS hasn't been around for years and that only applies when entering/exiting the US.

It's never been a problem previously for, well everybody.
 
Old Jan 31st 2017 | 7:52 am
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Originally Posted by mrken30
I probably won't renew my British passport once it expires. I am not sure how easy it will be to get a new passport after I don't renew.
It's easy, until it gets to x number of years, 10 I think, when you have to apply as if it were a first time passport and requires more proof of UK citizenship.
 
Old Jan 31st 2017 | 8:07 am
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Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing
I could have sworn I read that somewhere. I must have been thinking of the situation dc koop described, then.
I thought so too.
 
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Originally Posted by dc koop
My wife is in process of renewing her US passport, the only one she's entitled to. It costs $110.00
And its good for 10 years. $11 a year for a passport is pissed away on crap Starbucks coffee twice a week.
 
Old Jan 31st 2017 | 8:15 am
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Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing
the US is so much more than the mentally defective twunt who is temporarily at the helm.
That 47% of the voting public wanted at the helm. Just like they did Bush, Reagan etc.

Can we please just accept the USA for what it is, rather than the enlightened society people on here want it to be?

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Old Jan 31st 2017 | 8:25 am
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Old Jan 31st 2017 | 8:28 am
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Originally Posted by london_calling
That 47% of the voting public wanted at the helm. Just like they did Bush, Reagan etc.

Can we please just accept the USA for what it is, rather than the enlightened society people on here want it to be?
You mean that the other 53% should slink quietly away and ignore the insanity?
 
Old Jan 31st 2017 | 8:30 am
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Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing
I could have sworn I read that somewhere. I must have been thinking of the situation dc koop described, then.
me too, or maybe I was told that at my immigration interview.
 
Old Jan 31st 2017 | 8:31 am
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Originally Posted by Rete
And its good for 10 years. $11 a year for a passport is pissed away on crap Starbucks coffee twice a week.
A UK passport is around $250 from what I remember.
 
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Originally Posted by dc koop
But why pay for holding more that's another point?
I've explained one financial reason to do so. Additionally, I feel - a little - more comfortable travelling around the world on a UK passport than a US one, a feeling that might be heightened in the age of Trump.
 


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