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livinginnyc Jan 31st 2017 1:02 am

Re: yep it's already started!
 

Originally Posted by silvermine (Post 12166501)
maybe she wanted to get fired...and go out blazing so to speak..

My thoughts entirely.


Originally Posted by dc koop (Post 12166159)
I knew a guy who had his green card confiscated at the US border because they found out he had been living and working in Canada.

Just picking up on this bit - I can see why CBP/INS would get upset on this guy... if he's living/working in Canada, then he's not exactly meeting the requirements to keep his GC.

On the Dual-citizen stuff, I can't personally comment as I haven't naturalized yet. But I do have dual US-UK friends, who travel out of the US on their passport (obv), but enter whichever nation they are headed to on the best fit passport (i.e, traveling in the EU or Oz they enter as a UKC.etc). I've not heard of them having any issues upon return.

SultanOfSwing Jan 31st 2017 1:46 am

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Originally Posted by Jerseygirl (Post 12166464)
Its not that they don't like it...it is illegal to leave or enter the US using a foreign PP if you are a USC.

That's the key. As long as you use your US passport at the departing airport and on your return to the US, they really don't care what you do at the other end.

That being said, I let my UK passport expire and I only used it to enter the UK once, when traveling by myself. When we went as a family, we all went through together and I used my US passport, so interestingly (or perhaps more likely not) I have one stamp from Ireland and one from the UK in there from when I entered both as a foreigner :lol:. Canada never gave me a stamp when I went in the last time, because Toronto had the automated system.

I did enter both Canada and Ireland on my UK passport as a green card holder, of course, because that's really the only way I could have done it.

Giantaxe Jan 31st 2017 3:24 am

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Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing (Post 12166571)
That's the key. As long as you use your US passport at the departing airport and on your return to the US, they really don't care what you do at the other end.

Exactly, as made very clear on the State Department's travel website.

And for countries that charge US citizens a reciprocity fee (e.g. Argentina) there's a good financial reason to use a British passport on entry.

SultanOfSwing Jan 31st 2017 3:27 am

Re: yep it's already started!
 

Originally Posted by Giantaxe (Post 12166709)
Exactly.

And for countries that charge US citizens a reciprocity fee (e.g. Argentina) there's a good financial reason to use a British passport on entry.

I just looked that up. $100.00 per US citizen. The price of kicking them out of the VWP, I suppose.

scrubbedexpat091 Jan 31st 2017 5:19 am

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Ive been a PR of Canada for over 10 years, to gain citizenship is pretty easy, just a tad exspensive.





Originally Posted by silvermine (Post 12166497)
how much more insane do you want it? this past week was pretty good no?

it's not so easy getting Canadian citizenship these days either....


silvermine Jan 31st 2017 5:34 am

Re: yep it's already started!
 

Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12166870)
Ive been a PR of Canada for over 10 years, to gain citizenship is pretty easy, just a tad exspensive.

what would you say the timeline is these days for PR status, then Citizenship?
just curious...

scrubbedexpat091 Jan 31st 2017 5:54 am

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Processing times vary but looking at CIC website some streams seem to be around 6 months of course a lot of variations in applications so could take longer. The link provides current processing times.

Check application processing times

This link provides info on citizenship. You have to be a PR for certain amount of time and be physically in Canada a certain amount of days.

Determine your eligibility – Citizenship



Originally Posted by silvermine (Post 12166887)
what would you say the timeline is these days for PR status, then Citizenship?
just curious...


Giantaxe Jan 31st 2017 6:00 am

Re: yep it's already started!
 

Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing (Post 12166714)
I just looked that up. $100.00 per US citizen. The price of kicking them out of the VWP, I suppose.

Iirc, it was $160 when I visited a few years ago and is set to whatever the US charges Argentinian citizens for a visa. At that point Chile also charged a fee, but as the US no longer charges Chileans for a visa, Chile removed its reciprocity fee.

SultanOfSwing Jan 31st 2017 6:06 am

Re: yep it's already started!
 

Originally Posted by Giantaxe (Post 12166917)
Iirc, it was $160 when I visited a few years ago and is set to whatever the US charges Argentinian citizens for a visa. At that point Chile also charged a fee, but as the US no longer charges Chileans for a visa, Chile removed its reciprocity fee.

I did a quick Google search when you mentioned it, and from what I remember it was CA$92.00 for Canadians and $100.00 for Americans, but maybe I misread it.

Chile is on the VWP now, I believe, so that's why they no longer charge.

silvermine Jan 31st 2017 6:13 am

Re: yep it's already started!
 

Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12166908)
Processing times vary but looking at CIC website some streams seem to be around 6 months of course a lot of variations in applications so could take longer. The link provides current processing times.

Check application processing times

This link provides info on citizenship. You have to be a PR for certain amount of time and be physically in Canada a certain amount of days.

Determine your eligibility – Citizenship

thanks for that.
and first you have to be eligible in the first place.. not just wanting to go there and live etc

SultanOfSwing Jan 31st 2017 6:17 am

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Originally Posted by silvermine (Post 12166933)
thanks for that.
and first you have to be eligible in the first place.. not just wanting to go there and live etc

That's always a good start :D

dc koop Jan 31st 2017 6:44 am

Re: yep it's already started!
 

Originally Posted by Wintersong (Post 12166193)
Only when it comes to entering and exiting the US, afaik. I use my UK passport to enter the UK.

travel.state.gov specifically states "Use of the foreign passport does not endanger U.S. nationality."

I appreciate that, at this particular point in time, CBP isn't necessarily too concerned about what the law actually says, though. Still, the Supreme Court was fairly unequivocal: "Congress has no power under the Constitution to divest a person of his United States citizenship absent his voluntary renunciation thereof."



This is a completely different issue. He abandoned his permanent resident status when he ceased to be a permanent resident. Nothing at all to do with using a different passport.

From my point of view I don't see what the advantages are in holding more than one passport except that at Heathrow or other airports in the EU countries if you have a UK passport you get through immigration a lot faster than if you have to join the line for non-EU passports.
Last time I landed at Heathrow I waited 45 minutes to get through but that was before they built the new international terminal.

Perhaps some people keep another passport up to date in case they decide to return to the mother country. In my case I've been here donkey's years and here I'll stay... hell, damnation, Armageddon and Trump

mrken30 Jan 31st 2017 6:47 am

Re: yep it's already started!
 

Originally Posted by dc koop (Post 12166974)
From my point of view I don't see what the advantages are in holding more than one passport except that at Heathrow or other airports in the EU countries if you have a UK passport you get through immigration a lot faster than if you have to join the line for non-EU passports.
Last time I landed at Heathrow I waited 45 minutes to get through but that was before they built the new international terminal.

Perhaps some people keep another passport up to date in case they decide to return to the mother country. In my case I've been here donkey's years and here I'll stay... hell, damnation, Armageddon and Trump

I probably won't renew my British passport once it expires. I am not sure how easy it will be to get a new passport after I don't renew.

SultanOfSwing Jan 31st 2017 6:47 am

Re: yep it's already started!
 

Originally Posted by dc koop (Post 12166974)
From my point of view I don't see what the advantages are in holding more than one passport except that at Heathrow or other airports in the EU countries if you have a UK passport you get through immigration a lot faster than if you have to join the line for non-EU passports.
Last time I landed at Heathrow I waited 45 minutes to get through but that was before they built the new international terminal.

Perhaps some people keep another passport up to date in case they decide to return to the mother country. In my case I've been here donkey's years and here I'll stay... hell, damnation, Armageddon and Trump

It doesn't really matter if there are advantages or disadvantages, as a dual national, it is your right to hold both passports if you are happy enough to pay the fees in order to do so. Since neither the UK, nor the US actually prohibit dual citizenship, as long as you are using the appropriate passport at the appropriate time and place, it doesn't matter how many passports you have. I could go get an Irish passport if I wanted and I'm pretty sure there is at least one poster in the US immigration forums (is it Ian, maybe?) who has UK, US and Canadian citizenship.

dc koop Jan 31st 2017 6:50 am

Re: yep it's already started!
 

Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12166870)
Ive been a PR of Canada for over 10 years, to gain citizenship is pretty easy, just a tad exspensive.

Canada's alright except that when I was there it was hard to find a job. I even went as low as to apply for a janitorial position. I was asked "Do you have Canadian experience" Duh ! what ? Is there a different way of pushing a broom in Canada ? :lol:
Not being able to speak French was another big drawback in the part I was living in


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