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Old Oct 26th 2021, 7:05 am
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There are so many threads this could go in, but....


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Old Oct 26th 2021, 7:47 am
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Because the right wing are police supporters and don't see police murdering people as a problem or infringing their rights.

Some of right wing extremists think Canada is some socialist communist wasteland.
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Old Oct 26th 2021, 7:56 am
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Originally Posted by Jsmth321
Because the right wing are police supporters and don't see police murdering people as a problem or infringing their rights.

Some of right wing extremists think Canada is some socialist communist wasteland.
The US right-wing confuses socialism with communism, and isn't willing to learn the differences... 'Murica,....
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Old Oct 26th 2021, 8:48 am
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Originally Posted by DaveLovesDee
The US right-wing confuses socialism with communism, and isn't willing to learn the differences... 'Murica,....
In Vancouver over the summer someone in a COVID protest had a sign saying Canada is a communist socialist marxist dictatorship.

I think they just look up words and put them all together thinking they are smart.
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Old Oct 26th 2021, 9:48 am
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Originally Posted by Jsmth321
In Vancouver over the summer someone in a COVID protest had a sign saying Canada is a communist socialist marxist dictatorship.

I think they just look up words and put them all together thinking they are smart.
I don't think they even look them up...

They're told these things by whichever source they get their information from, and because those sources are telling them what they already believe, there's no incentive to disbelieve it or to fact-check it.
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Originally Posted by robin1234
I just saw that in the Guardian. The hiker said he had no idea search parties were seeking him, in the event he reached his car the next morning - so he wasn’t that hugely overdue.

Did the rescue network not have a way to reach out to friends or family of the lost man, so one of them could call him, and tell him to pick up the call from the unknown number?
The story has more holes than a Swiss cheese. Lost man has phone reception and doesn't think to make any calls on the phone that he didn't flatten in the first five minutes of his trip taking selfies for social media?
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The story has more holes than a Swiss cheese. Lost man has phone reception and doesn't think to make any calls on the phone that he didn't flatten in the first five minutes of his trip taking selfies for social media?
True I didn’t think of it that way! I think from his point of view, he was confident he would eventually get back to his car, so he hadn’t reached the stage of seeking help.
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The linked story says they were lost for 24 hours, other sources say they got back to their car less than 24 hours after leaving it., So probably overdue for 12 hours, if expected back at, or soon after sun set.
But it doesn't sound like they had an arrangement for when they should be considered overdue and help called.
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Originally Posted by Jsmth321
Because the right wing are police supporters and don't see police murdering people as a problem or infringing their rights.
The rightwing in the US are in this weird position of saying they are against authoritarianism while unquestioningly supporting the police and military.
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Originally Posted by Anian
The rightwing in the US are in this weird position of saying they are against authoritarianism while unquestioningly supporting the police and military.
In the context of "white freedom" it is a coherent position. They want to be free, and they want that freedom protected by force.
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Originally Posted by kimilseung
In the context of "white freedom" it is a coherent position. They want to be free, and they want that freedom protected by force.
As long as that force isn't used against them...
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Originally Posted by Giantaxe
Some pure stupidity on Mt Elbert in Colorado.

"Hiker lost for 24 hours ignored calls from rescuers because of unknown number"

https://nypost.com/2021/10/25/hiker-...nknown-number/
Reminds me of a true story, somewhat related and worth sharing. Because I was frequently 'on call' in my roles in IT, I've always erred on the side of answering the phone even if I don't know the caller. One day the phone rang and it was a completely random number, and I was not inclined to answer it but something kicked in and told me to answer. I answered, and it was my g/f, calling from some kind soul's phone. Her car had broken down and, she'd accidentally let her phone run down so couldn't call me. Ever since then, I've answered virtually every call.
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Sounds about right...

https://www.thenation.com/article/society/kyle-rittenhouse-judge/ ]I Hope Everyone Is Prepared for Kyle Rittenhouse to Go Free

The trial of teenage gunman Kyle Rittenhouse begins next week, but the fix is already in. Rittenhouse, who is being tried as an adult, shot two people dead in the street in Kenosha, Wis., during the protests that followed the shooting of Jacob Blake in 2020. That he killed two people is undisputed, but Rittenhouse claims the homicides were justified acts of self-defense.

Rittenhouse is not from Kenosha. He went there, with other armed men, allegedly to defend a place called “Car Source,” which I point out just to emphasize that he wasn’t even trying to protect his own property in his own town. Once there, he began patrolling the streets with an assault rifle illegally gifted him by an older friend. I find the claim that Rittenhouse subsequently murdered two unarmed people in self-defense to be unconscionable. In a just world, Rittenhouse would go to jail for a double homicide and illegal gun possession.
And her's why he's likely to go free...

Wisconsin state judge Bruce Schroeder has presided over the Rittenhouse case from the beginning and has done nearly everything he can to tilt the scales of justice in Rittenhouse’s favor. This week, in the last pretrial conference, Schroeder declared that prosecutors are not allowed to refer to the people Rittenhouse murdered as “victims” during the trial. He said “victims” is too “loaded” a term, as if there were some other word we should use for unarmed people who were shot to death.
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Originally Posted by DaveLovesDee
There are so many threads this could go in, but....

I had this exact conversation with a work colleague yesterday. My sister emigrated from the UK to Australia in early 2019 (Good timing, right?)

She lives in Adelaide, so has had her fair share of lockdowns, but no one there is calling it a 'police state' My colleague insisted that all Australians were on the verge of rioting. It made me wonder what it is about places like Australia and the UK, who seem (on the face of it, as a US resident) to have born lockdowns without the complaining about it. I wonder if it's something about Commonwealth countries and the values imposed on them by the British.

This is a very long way of saying that most right wing commentators are willful idiots.


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Originally Posted by civilservant
This is a very long way of saying that most right wing commentators are willful idiots.
As a Seattle resident, I'm still being told by people elsewhere that I am living in some post apocalyptic hellscape run by antifa and could be murdered any second. To be fair, the police don't respond to many crimes, but that's been the case for years.
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