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-   -   Planespotting (https://britishexpats.com/forum/trailer-park-96/planespotting-742453/)

Nutek Apr 28th 2015 6:53 am
Re: Planespotting
 
Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing (Post 11631567)
A BA reference?
Yes. :)


It's the little victories, isn't it?
:nod: Every time.

sir_eccles Apr 28th 2015 6:54 am
Re: Planespotting
 
Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing (Post 11631562)
Oh, most likely more.

I think I'll stick to pretending to fly 747s on the computer for now. Way cheaper and safer.
Terrorist!

SultanOfSwing Apr 28th 2015 6:56 am
Re: Planespotting
 
Originally Posted by Nutek (Post 11631570)
Yes. :)



:nod: Every time.
I have to say, weird as it sounds given the circumstances, that that was probably one of the best flights I had been on. The new IFE on the 777s (think it's the same on the 747) was brilliant. Seemingly limitless choices of shows/films to watch and a USB charging port at every seat? Yes please.

Originally Posted by sir_eccles (Post 11631571)
Terrorist!
I'd be a useless one. I have a terrible habit of putting the planes on the runway.

Pulaski Apr 28th 2015 6:57 am
Re: Planespotting
 
Originally Posted by GeoffM (Post 11631522)
Nor is there any evidence so far that it crashed into the sea. ......
That assumes you don't believe the satellite "ping data" doppler analysis. It might be a bit high tech but I think it counts as "evidence", granted not greatevidence, but the only evidence we have after MH370 passed over the Straits of Malacca.

Nutek Apr 28th 2015 6:58 am
Re: Planespotting
 
Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing (Post 11631574)

I'd be a useless one. I have a terrible habit of putting the planes on the runway.
You're gonna have to come in pretty low to land that thing..

SultanOfSwing Apr 28th 2015 6:59 am
Re: Planespotting
 
Originally Posted by Nutek (Post 11631576)
You're gonna have to come in pretty low to land that thing..
Unless you're flying into Mexico City.

GeoffM Apr 28th 2015 7:18 am
Re: Planespotting
 
Originally Posted by Pulaski (Post 11631575)
That assumes you don't believe the satellite "ping data" doppler analysis. It might be a bit high tech but I think it counts as "evidence", granted not greatevidence, but the only evidence we have after MH370 passed over the Straits of Malacca.
No, this was using the same satellite data. As I said earlier, the handshakes were so far apart (just 6 handshakes IIRC), and the satellite triangulation inexact that the possible plot points were one of two (or maybe even more) paths. The reason they suspected the southerly path I forget now.

I need to find that article...

GeoffM Apr 28th 2015 7:21 am
Re: Planespotting
 
Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing (Post 11631574)
I have to say, weird as it sounds given the circumstances, that that was probably one of the best flights I had been on. The new IFE on the 777s (think it's the same on the 747) was brilliant. Seemingly limitless choices of shows/films to watch and a USB charging port at every seat? Yes please.
Not sure on coverage but I thought Delta's more premier route aircraft with IFE had USB at every seat. Some even have 120v outlets in the front section of regular economy, though this might be more limited.

markonline1 Apr 28th 2015 7:24 am
Re: Planespotting
 
Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing (Post 11631574)
The new IFE on the 777s (think it's the same on the 747) was brilliant.
It's not.

Pulaski Apr 28th 2015 7:24 am
Re: Planespotting
 
Originally Posted by GeoffM (Post 11631594)
No, this was using the same satellite data. As I said earlier, the handshakes were so far apart (just 6 handshakes IIRC), and the satellite triangulation inexact that the possible plot points were one of two (or maybe even more) paths. The reason they suspected the southerly path I forget now.

I need to find that article...
Your clue is in my last post. It isn't just triangulation, the doppler effect changes the frequency of the "ping", such that (if the analysis is correct) it has to be the "southern arc".

GeoffM Apr 28th 2015 7:32 am
Re: Planespotting
 
Originally Posted by Pulaski (Post 11631602)
Your clue is in my last post. It isn't just triangulation, the doppler effect changes the frequency of the "ping", such that (if the analysis is correct) it has to be the "southern arc".
Your clue is in this very post - it was an arc that stretched in both directions. Correction to my earlier - not SW Russia but China/E Russia. This was the article but note that my only comment is about the possible directions the aircraft took, per my earlier, and not the rest of the theories spun in this article.

Pulaski Apr 28th 2015 7:34 am
Re: Planespotting
 
Originally Posted by GeoffM (Post 11631606)
Your clue is in this very post - it was an arc that stretched in both directions. Correction to my earlier - not SW Russia but China/E Russia. This was the article but note that my only comment is about the possible directions the aircraft took, per my earlier, and not the rest of the theories spun in this article.
The doppler shift on the two arcs is different. The MH370 data matches a path along the southern arc.

SultanOfSwing Apr 28th 2015 7:43 am
Re: Planespotting
 
Originally Posted by GeoffM (Post 11631598)
Not sure on coverage but I thought Delta's more premier route aircraft with IFE had USB at every seat. Some even have 120v outlets in the front section of regular economy, though this might be more limited.
That may well be, but Delta do not fly direct to the UK from Chicago, while BA do, so they win. Our other alternatives are AA or Aer Lingus into Dublin and neither of them offer anywhere near what BA do.

Originally Posted by markonline1 (Post 11631601)
It's not.
That's a bit shite.

markonline1 Apr 28th 2015 7:46 am
Re: Planespotting
 
Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing (Post 11631612)
That's a bit shite.
That's a lot shite. The jumbo's are really starting to show their age. Thankfully, they are slowly being phased out on the SFO route.

GeoffM Apr 28th 2015 7:46 am
Re: Planespotting
 
Originally Posted by Pulaski (Post 11631610)
The doppler shift on the two arcs is different. The MH370 data matches a path along the southern arc.
Sigh. Even the scientists at Inmarsat recognised that it could have gone either way. The southern route was selected as more likely given a number of other factors, even though the same scientists stated that the variable you keep wittering on about is just based on guesstimates, not precise data.


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