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Old Apr 15th 2014 | 5:29 am
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My experiences with tires:


Michelin
Yokohama


Goodyear
Firestone
 
Old Apr 15th 2014 | 5:34 am
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Experiences with tyres? Don't they just stop you scraping along the road?
 
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Originally Posted by Sally Redux
Experiences with tyres? Don't they just stop you scraping along the road?
They protect the wheel, provide grip and all the rest.

My experience with tires is that my car isn't worth enough to warrant spending more than the cheapest available in the correct size
 
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Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing
My experience with tires is that my car isn't worth enough to warrant spending more than the cheapest available in the correct size
Exactly
 
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Originally Posted by Sally Redux
Exactly
I spend more time thinking about what ones to use in Gran Turismo than I do in real life
 
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Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing
I spend more time thinking about what ones to use in Gran Turismo than I do in real life
 
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Originally Posted by Sally Redux
Although in that case, it's more about the type of compound used, rather than the brand. Grip vs speed of wear for a long race and all that stuff nobody but me is interest in ...
 
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Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing
Although in that case, it's more about the type of compound used, rather than the brand. Grip vs speed of wear for a long race and all that stuff nobody but me is interest in ...
I am totally rubbish at driving games but I used to enjoy all that kind of stuff like weight v. agility for armour in 'Vagrant Story'
 
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Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing
My experience with tires is that my car isn't worth enough to warrant spending more than the cheapest available in the correct size
The right tyres can save significant amounts of fuel too.
 
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Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing
stuff nobody but me is interest in ...
Ahem.... Almost nobody.
 
Old Apr 15th 2014 | 5:56 am
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Originally Posted by steveq
The right tyres can save significant amounts of fuel too.
Yeah, this is correct but it matters not when one has the wrong car in the first place

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Ahem.... Almost nobody.
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Originally Posted by Sally Redux
Experiences with tyres? Don't they just stop you scraping along the road?
I tend to think of them as the part of the car that enables me to change direction, accelerate, and brake, in dry and wet conditions. If they aren't working properly, and especially if they suddenly decide to stop working properly, my car, and quite possibly me, will be toast very very quickly. This view is partly based on having a retread go pop on me, when I got my first "proper" car (after I graduated). The dealer I bought it from told me he would put new tires on it. When I picked it up a few days later it had "new" retreads on it. He assured me they were "very good", and they had "never given any problem". A few months after belting up and down the M4, I was, entirely coincidentally, just a few hundred feet from the dealer's lot when I heard a "POP" sound as I slowly (less than walking pace) turned right in a crossroads. The tire had ripped 2-3" next to the hub, and then ripped a similar length radially at one end, making a triangular flap. The dealer offered to replace it for free; I told him to remove them all and put on a set of Michelins. If the problem had occurred on the motorway, the outcome would likely have been very different.

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Originally Posted by Yorkieabroad
Have to say, I wonder about the OEM selections sometimes. My F150 came with Pirelli Scorpion whatever's on it, and they were fine...rode well, reasonable handling, nice and quiet. Lasted less than 25k miles!
I hated the Pirelli Scorpions I had on my F150, they would flat spot over night and thus the first several miles every morning were a bone shuddering experience when the temperature drops. I was so happy when they finally died (60,000 miles(ish). These were the OEM original 20" ones on my factory 20" rims, not sure if this may explain the differing opinion?

On a little side note, I almost bought a complete new set of, smaller, rims and tires for my truck (18" I believe) when it came time to replace these, it would only have worked out a fraction more than the 20" tires prices I was being quoted. I then found the tires I am using now. When these die I may be in the same position if I can no longer get them at the good price I paid.

Originally Posted by Pulaski
The original Firestones on my F250 won't get it through the inspection due this month, they have almost 69,000 miles on them.

The original Goodyears on my Mustang won't get it through the inspection due this month, they have almost 41,000 miles on the them, which I believe is at the upper end of what is possible for "performance" tyres, and might indicate that I haven't been having enough fun!

Thankfully the Accord didn't need tyres this year, but is on its 4th set of Michelins at 268,000 miles. The previous ones lasted 80,000+ (original set), 60,000+/-, and 100,000 +/- (most recent set). The fourth set went on at just over 240,000 miles, and should be good for another 2-3 years.

If you notice a pattern, it helps explain my leaning towards OEM tyres.
I have to admit i have been pleasantly surprised by Cooper tires, they seem to wear well and behave excellently, plus I believe they are made in the USA so a bonus there!
 
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Originally Posted by Pulaski
I tend to think of them as the part of the car that enables me to change direction, accelerate, and brake, in dry and wet conditions. If they aren't working properly, and especially if they suddenly decide to stop working properly, my car, and quite possibly me, will be toast very very quickly. This view is partly based on having a retread go pop on me, when I got my first "proper" car (after I graduated). The dealer I bought it from told me he would put new tires on it. When I picked it up a few days later it had "new" retreads on it. He assured me they were "very good", and they had "never given any problem". A few months after belting up and down the M4, I was, entirely coincidentally, just a few hundred feet from the dealer's lot when I heard a "POP" sound as I slowly (less than walking pace) turned right in a crossroads. The tire had ripped 2-3" next to the hub, and then ripped a similar length radially at one end, making a triangular flap. The dealer offered to replace it for free; I told him to remove them all and put on a set of Michelins. If the problem had occurred on the motorway, the outcome would likely have been very different.
Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing
They protect the wheel, provide grip and all the rest.

My experience with tires is that my car isn't worth enough to warrant spending more than the cheapest available in the correct size
Two things I very rarely skimp on is tires and brakes, when you need them, you REALLY need them.

Do I need pretty green colored headlights? No!
Do I need chrome wing mirrors? No!
Do I need the ability to stop quickly and safely in all kinds of weather and road conditions?
 
Old Apr 15th 2014 | 6:24 am
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Originally Posted by jibsymalone
Two things I very rarely skimp on is tires and brakes, when you need them, you REALLY need them.

Do I need pretty green colored headlights? No!
Do I need chrome wing mirrors? No!
Do I need the ability to stop quickly and safely in all kinds of weather and road conditions?
I've put over 100,000 miles on my car using the same tire brand, compound, type and whatever other variable and they do the job for me
 


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