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pejpm1 Oct 13th 2008 5:25 am

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Originally Posted by elfman (Post 6870670)
I think it's ****ing hilarious the way so many republicans/conservatives bang on about Obama (and Hillary Clinton) calling them "far left", "Marxist", "socialist" and so on. Anybody who uses these terms to describe any significant figure in today's US politics is just broadcasting a profound ignorance of political science.

Totally agree with this statement. In the UK, my policitical views would be considered slightly right of centre...over here I'm a full blown commie!

Michael Oct 13th 2008 5:29 am

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Originally Posted by Octang Frye (Post 6870728)
A couple of years. I don't listen to talk radio any more.
I prefer XM radio, particularly the comedy channel.

Franken's a congressman now, isn't he?

No, he is running for governor of Minnesota, the state that produced Jessie Ventura, Eugene McCarthy (anti war US Senator that beat LBJ in NH forcing LBJ to not seek another term), and the DFL (Democratic/Farm Labor Party).

meauxna Oct 13th 2008 5:31 am

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Originally Posted by Michael (Post 6870752)
No, he is running for governor of Minnesota, the state that produced Jessie Ventura, Eugene McCarthy (anti war US Senator that beat LBJ in NH forcing LBJ to not seek another term), and the DFL (Democratic/Farm Labor Party).

lol, glad you guys are on top of it.

googlefu sez: Democratic candidate in 2008 for US Senator from Minnesota

Michael Oct 13th 2008 5:33 am

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Originally Posted by meauxna (Post 6870759)
lol, glad you guys are on top of it.

googlefu sez: Democratic candidate in 2008 for US Senator from Minnesota

Got that wrong since I was working from memory.

cindyabs Oct 13th 2008 5:37 am

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Originally Posted by Michael (Post 6870752)
No, he is running for governor of Minnesota, the state that produced Jessie Ventura, Eugene McCarthy (anti war US Senator that beat LBJ in NH forcing LBJ to not seek another term), and the DFL (Democratic/Farm Labor Party).

and people with cute accents.

Michael Oct 13th 2008 5:50 am

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Originally Posted by pejpm1 (Post 6870743)
Totally agree with this statement. In the UK, my policitical views would be considered slightly right of centre...over here I'm a full blown commie!

I agree. Most democrates (approx. 2/3) are moderates and about 1/3 of the republicans are also moderates. Very few of those want a welfare state such as what is in many countries of Europe but want to fix the health care system.

Most of the 2/3 of the republicans on the right do not want any government solutions and most of the remaining 1/3 of the democrates on the left want a welfare state.

What I find is that democrates overall seem to accept and respect whoever gets elected president but that is not always the case for republicans. As an example, when Clinton was elected president, the right wing of the republican party was immediately on his case even though he was about as center of the road as a politician can get. Now Clinton had his faults and couldn't keep his pants zipped up but I don't understand why he would be so hated by the right wing. A conservative republican uncle of mine just hated Clinton and when I asked him why, he said he didn't know but he just didn't like the guy.

Michael Oct 13th 2008 5:52 am

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Originally Posted by cindyabs (Post 6870778)
and people with cute accents.

Yah, forgot about the svieds and fins.

Octang Frye Oct 13th 2008 5:53 am

Re: Palin the Saviour
 

Originally Posted by pejpm1 (Post 6870743)
Totally agree with this statement. In the UK, my policitical views would be considered slightly right of centre...over here I'm a full blown commie!

No, you're confusing commie with wanker.

paddingtongreen Oct 13th 2008 5:55 am

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Never mind hunting, I find it incomprehensible that most "Pro Lifers" find nothing inconsistent in their support for the death penalty for humans. They are the ones mostly in favour of sending our youngsters to war as well. I thought their bible said "Thou shalt not kill" full stop, I didn't see any loopholes or caveats when I read it.

elfman Oct 13th 2008 6:06 am

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Originally Posted by paddingtongreen (Post 6870833)
I thought their bible said "Thou shalt not kill" full stop, I didn't see any loopholes or caveats when I read it.

I think they try to get round this by claiming that the original wording of the commandment was "thou shalt not murder", and that it has been frequently mistranslated

SecretGarden Oct 13th 2008 6:17 am

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Originally Posted by elfman (Post 6870869)
I think they try to get round this by claiming that the original wording of the commandment was "thou shalt not murder", and that it has been frequently mistranslated

Heh. Went to see "Religulous" this weekend. Makes ya think. The popcorn was good, too. :)

~SecretGarden

One Hung Lo Oct 13th 2008 6:26 am

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Originally Posted by Octang Frye (Post 6870579)
Wow, you only see what you want to see.

HAHAHAHAHAHA, did you write that with a straight face?

One Hung Lo Oct 13th 2008 6:28 am

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Originally Posted by Tracym (Post 6870644)
My husband has spent time in abbatoirs, it was a required part of his training.

The captive bolt to the head does not kill them, it stuns them. Pigs are electrocuted, rather than have the bolt to the head. Then (in either case) their throat is cut, and then they bleed out which actually kills them. There are more (worse) things that happen, but I'm not even willing for him to tell me.

Also, the animals do not enjoy their time in feedlots, etc. while waiting for slaughter.

Yes, in hunting, a shot that doesn't kill outright can cause suffering to those unfortunate animal.

But all the animals in the abbatoirs certainly suffer significant distress. It's not a pretty business.

I admit to liking my meat, so I'll admit to being a bit of a hypocrite - I couldn't bear to hunt, and I certainly won't visit an abbatoir. But I do still refrain personally from criticising responsible hunters.

The point is not about whether hunting or abattoirs are more unpleasant for an animal, it's whether taking pleasure in the kill marks you as a psycho or not.

dbj1000 Oct 13th 2008 6:36 am

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Originally Posted by Octang Frye (Post 6870828)
No, you're confusing commie with wanker.

You just sound like a nicer and nicer person with each post in this thread, Octang. Do you spit at your neighbors who have Obama signs up too, or do you like to keep it nice and safe online?

Octang Frye Oct 13th 2008 6:41 am

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Originally Posted by dbj1000 (Post 6870965)
You just sound like a nicer and nicer person with each post in this thread, Octang. Do you spit at your neighbors who have Obama signs up too, or do you like to keep it nice and safe online?

Nope, my HOA has three Obama signs. I live amongst "democrates" by choice.

I don't spit period. Unless I'm running.

Nice sideburns, btw. Going for the Ming the Merciless look?
\ Looks out the window for hot hail.
\\ You may now return to knocking Bible Spice.


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