Palin the Saviour
 

I know this forum is full of Palin supporters so I thought you would all appreciate this article...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...t-examine.html

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and we're off............................. :thumbdown:


22 more days and it will all be over, thank God.

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Is it really?

I'll flame:


'Pro life' but hunts?

Chortle Chortle.

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Can someone explain to me why ACORN is being laid out as such a deviant? It's a fine and noble organization in my book. What is it that they do that so upsets people?

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Probably doesn't give enough money to the rich.

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Generally pro-life refers to HUMAN life. I have never heard that she hunts those.

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It helps poor people. :eek:

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I know but I don't draw a line between one life and another. I think it's a tad hypocritical for someone to stand up and say how important Life is and at the same time hunt.

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Do you eat meat?

I personally have a hard time with anyone who eats meat being too critical of hunting. The animals die either way - and frankly, the ones who are hunted generally have a kinder death than those in an abbatoir.

I do eat meat - and I couldn't bear to hunt myself. But I don't feel I can really criticise it too much either.

Most people think there is some sort of line between humans and animals. Of course, I guess a few might disagree...

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Can you be pro choice and hunt? :sneaky:

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Do the animals get a choice? :p

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I'm finding it hard to not eat meat for dietary reasons but I'm nearly meat free, plus I love bacon :p

But I still feel I can have an opinion on such things.

And animals in an abattoir get a bolt to the head in most cases and are out right dead. sadly this isn't the case with all shots taken by the hunter. I've seen plenty of examples of this.

I've also seen some lazy sods sat nearly a mile away in a chair with high powered rifles and scopes, 'woopin and a hollerin' over a dead rabbit.

If you want to get biblical, the bible doesn't say, Don't kill your fellow man, it says don't kill, full stop.

But meh.

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How is it possible to physically intimidate a bank?

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Warning: the sign and the mullet is real but alas, the t-shirt is not:

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q..._mccain_40.jpg

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Voter fraud. In 11 eleven states. One guy was paid with cigarettes and cash to register 72 times.

Plus they're ****ing annoying, hanging around outside Safeway or Target. Let me shop in peace.

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Bring on the liberal hate...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQalRPQ8stI

Oh please, oh please, oh please let there be a culture war... for real.

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Have you asked Bristol's boyfriend? :rofl:

Ever seen a feedlot? I have much more respect for getting your meat by hunting.

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No it wont, it will go on for ever. Whoever wins, the opponent and their supporters will bring up the candidate whenever something doesn't go right. If Obama wins and his healthcare policy doesn't work out, McCain and his supporters will bang on about how theirs was better. If the opposite happens, Obama and his supporters will tell you they told you so. Then in 3 and a bit years a new candidate(s) will emerge and it will start all over again, but with the original candidates still being mentioned a lot!

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This site has turned into the Daily Kos.

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The far right will try to demonize anyone that they don't agree with whether it is George Soros or Acorn. They feel if the demonize those people or groups, people will not vote for anyone that has even minor ties (which they make it seem that there are major ties) with those people or groups.

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The far right? I didn't realize Hitler, Mussolini and Le Pen were involved in this election...

Michael, you've been afflicted by language devaluation too.

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Bollocks. I though that link was going to lead to a video of the Parrot Sketch.

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there is nobody here with clean hands.

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Is Melanie Phillips or the Daily Mail considered to be the far right?

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The coming liberal thugocracy:

http://washingtontimes.com/news/2008...gocracy/print/

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You're absolutely correct to point that out.

The center right try to demonize anyone who they don't agree with.

There. Better? Certainly seems to me a more accurate reflection of the political landscape here.

After all, it's not the lunatic "far right" that's calling Obama an "Islamic terrorist" at public rallies, now is it? It's the "hockey moms and honest Joes of Middle America".

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Totally agree with you. Life is life. Hypocritical to just say humans are the only lives not worth taking in my opinion. We aren't that special.

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I agree but name anyone on the far left that is the equivalent to Russ Limbaugh, Shan Hannity, or Michael Savage. I doubt that Alan Colmes, Keith Olbermann, or even Al Sharpton could be considered the lefts equals of any of those mentioned.

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So I guess you don't listen to Air America... Randi Rhodes? Al Franken?...

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"The center right try to demonize anyone who they don't agree with."
The left are trying to demonize Palin.
Who has the high ground? Neither Reps or Dems emerge from this situation with credit...

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I don't think anyone listens to Air America and I doubt most Americans can even figure out how to receive it even if they wanted to. That may be the left fringe that nobody listens to but the fringe right has many who listen/watch them.

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So you want the fairness doctrine back?
You want "Russ" muzzled? Oh dear. Doesn't bode well for free speech.
But that's the point with the left though, isn't it? Dissenting viewpoints are just not allowed.

I've listened in the past to the likes of "Russ", "Shan" et al. I don't agree with a lot of what they say but I love how they piss off the left - so they're doing something right.

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"Demonize Palin" is a very strong term to use. Have I missed something that she's been accused of that would class a "demonizing"?

But in general I agree. Both sides of the political spectrum in this country suck - both the politicians and their supporters. The "politics of hate" is something I could definitely live without.

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I just washed mine :(

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Do you really hate people with opinions different to your own as much as you sound like you do?

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Whom from the left demonized her? They may have joked about some of the things she did and they may disagree with her beliefs but I don't remember anyone from the left being vicious to her. I don't remember anyone on the left repeatly saying such things as Barack Hussein Obama or trying to insinuate that Barack is a terriost to get away from the real issues in the country.

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Wow, you only see what you want to see.

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I agree with your agreement-reminds me of this-

Eugene Field. 1850–1895

231. The Duel

THE GINGHAM dog and the calico cat
Side by side on the table sat;
'T was half-past twelve, and (what do you think!)
Nor one nor t' other had slept a wink!
The old Dutch clock and the Chinese plate 5
Appeared to know as sure as fate
There was going to be a terrible spat.
(I was n't there; I simply state
What was told to me by the Chinese plate!)

The gingham dog went "bow-wow-wow!" 10
And the calico cat replied "mee-ow!"
The air was littered, an hour or so,
With bits of gingham and calico,
While the old Dutch clock in the chimney-place
Up with its hands before its face, 15
For it always dreaded a family row!
(Never mind: I 'm only telling you
What the old Dutch clock declares is true!)

The Chinese plate looked very blue,
And wailed, "Oh, dear! what shall we do!" 20
But the gingham dog and the calico cat
Wallowed this way and tumbled that,
Employing every tooth and claw
In the awfullest way you ever saw—
And, oh! how the gingham and calico flew! 25
(Don't fancy I exaggerate—
I got my news from the Chinese plate!)

Next morning where the two had sat
They found no trace of dog or cat;
And some folks think unto this day 30
That burglars stole that pair away!
But the truth about the cat and pup
Is this: they ate each other up!
Now what do you really think of that!
(The old Dutch clock it told me so, 35
And that is how I came to know.)

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Actually I consider myself a fisical conservative and have voted for many republicans in the past. Although Nixon, Regan, and Bush Sr. had a base that was from the religious right, none of them really liked the religious right and remained independent.

On the other hand, Bush Jr. tied his wagon to the religious right and the neo-cons. I've always respected McCain but since he also recently seems to have tied his wagon to the religious right and neo-cons, I just can't take 4 more years like the last 8 years.