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hereandthere Feb 16th 2010 8:25 am

Re: Palin for Pres in 2012?
 

Originally Posted by chartreuse (Post 8348119)
We somehow survived 17.5% VAT in the UK, with council tax on top... ;)

It's going to be 20% in a few weeks though, according to reports. And that's going to happen at the same time massive cuts in the public services. THe pleasures of living in the most bankrupt nation on Earth.

meauxna Feb 16th 2010 8:35 am

Re: Palin for Pres in 2012?
 
thank you hereandthere for reminding me...



Originally Posted by chartreuse (Post 8348119)
We somehow survived 17.5% VAT in the UK, with council tax on top... ;)

You also get a completely different set of goods and services for that money, don't you?
Oh, never mind. I really am too grumpy about this right now.
Just don't buy into all that live free/frontera stuff out there. Someone has to pay the bills.

nettlebed Feb 16th 2010 8:38 am

Re: Palin for Pres in 2012?
 

Originally Posted by hereandthere (Post 8348355)
THe pleasures of living in the most bankrupt nation on Earth.

I think this might be a little over the top. But I'm glad I don't live there any more, I have to say...

hereandthere Feb 16th 2010 8:39 am

Re: Palin for Pres in 2012?
 

Originally Posted by nettlebed (Post 8348404)
I think this might be a little over the top. But I'm glad I don't live there any more, I have to say...

No, I think it's an economic fact, at least among the developed world. Its deficit is 13% of GDP.

zargof Feb 16th 2010 8:42 am

Re: Palin for Pres in 2012?
 

Originally Posted by hereandthere (Post 8348409)
No, I think it's an economic fact, at least among the developed world. Its deficit is 13% of GDP.

No it isn't...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereport...k_britain.html

This is just Europe.

cindyabs Feb 16th 2010 8:44 am

Re: Palin for Pres in 2012?
 

Originally Posted by meauxna (Post 8348129)
I swear, I didn't do this on purpose, it was the first link I clicked after searching ONLY on her last name!
http://www.news8austin.com/content/h...267011&SecID=2

"So it is doubly ironic that the Debra Medina flap on Glenn Beck’s radio show buried some truly dismal news last week.
(that would be the flap where she agreed that 9/11 was a Bush conspiracy jobby. -m)

The Comptroller reported sales tax collections were down for 12 months in a row. But wait, it gets worse. Sales taxes were down by double digits for a record eighth month in a row. Never in the history of the Texas sales tax have we seen eight months of double digit declines.

The December report was the worst of the year a record 14.2 percent drop in the Christmas season.

Why should you care about a sales tax number? Well first, it is the easiest way to see how bad business really is. A 14 percent drop means 14 percent fewer sales in restaurants, stores and hotels.

Second, there are nearly one million Texans seeking work. It is very difficult to imagine robust hiring while businesses are doing so poorly.



So yeah, a sales tax still seems like a good place to put all your eggs?
Of course, my state doesn't have one at all, and we are also in deep doo doo.
The point is, don't put all the eggs in ANY one basket.

One of many points I'd like to mention to POTUS when he's here in 2 weeks time.

hereandthere Feb 16th 2010 8:54 am

Re: Palin for Pres in 2012?
 

Originally Posted by zargof (Post 8348415)
No it isn't...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereport...k_britain.html

This is just Europe.

According to multiple sources, including economywatch, UK budget was at 5.3% of GDP even back in 2008, and 2009 figures range from 9% to 13%, according to who you believe.

I don't about this woman on the Brown Broadcasting Corporation that you link to but either she's talking about something else or she's plain wrong.

nettlebed Feb 16th 2010 9:06 am

Re: Palin for Pres in 2012?
 

Originally Posted by hereandthere (Post 8348450)
According to multiple sources, including economywatch, UK budget was at 5.3% of GDP even back in 2008, and 2009 figures range from 9% to 13%, according to who you believe.

I don't about this woman on the Brown Broadcasting Corporation that you link to but either she's talking about something else or she's plain wrong.

Figures from the Bank of International Settlement:

External debt as a percentage of GDP
Ireland (1,267% - $567,805 per capita)
Switzerland (422.7% - $176.045 per capita)
United Kingdom (408.3 % - $148,702 per capita)
Netherlands (365% - $146,703 per capita)
Belgium (320.2% - $119,681 per capita)
Denmark (298% - $110,442 per capita)
Austria (252.6% - $101,387 per capita)

zargof Feb 16th 2010 9:13 am

Re: Palin for Pres in 2012?
 

Originally Posted by hereandthere (Post 8348450)
According to multiple sources, including economywatch, UK budget was at 5.3% of GDP even back in 2008, and 2009 figures range from 9% to 13%, according to who you believe.

I don't about this woman on the Brown Broadcasting Corporation that you link to but either she's talking about something else or she's plain wrong.

I'm not saying that UK's finances are in a good state, the point is that there are countries in a worse position than the UK. Budget deficit (which I assume is what you're talking about) is one aspect, but not the whole story. If you actually read the article I linked to you'd see that.

From the article: "According to the OECD, UK debt on the Maastricht definition stood at 66% of GDP in 2009. That compares with 111% for Greece. The figures next year are forecast to be 78% for the UK and 120% for Greece. The average gross debt ratio for the Euro area is expected to be 85% in 2010.
"

BTW economywatch lists national debt as %age of GDP for the UK as 43rd largest.

cindyabs Feb 16th 2010 9:19 am

Re: Palin for Pres in 2012?
 
So who's going to bailout Greece? The article I read mentioned that next on the horizon is Spain and Portugal.

nettlebed Feb 16th 2010 9:21 am

Re: Palin for Pres in 2012?
 

Originally Posted by meauxna (Post 8348162)
O rlly?
And how do they propose funding their lovely Defense budget? Those professional soldiers aren't going to work for free.

Simple: you just eliminate 12th Grade from school. If that doesn't give you enough money, well, start counting down.

After all, an edumacated populace is the greatest threat to these fscking loonbags (sadly, that means they probably don't have too much to worry about <re-sigh>)

meauxna Feb 16th 2010 9:25 am

Re: Palin for Pres in 2012?
 

Originally Posted by cindyabs (Post 8348534)
So who's going to bailout Greece? The article I read mentioned that next on the horizon is Spain and Portugal.

It's the Brits fault. :)
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/15/op...15krugman.html
And the Germans.

Oh yeah, and the Greek national pastime. No one ever should have given them a 'bank' that big. :blink:

meauxna Feb 16th 2010 10:14 am

Re: Palin for Pres in 2012?
 

Originally Posted by cindyabs (Post 8348421)
One of many points I'd like to mention to POTUS when he's here in 2 weeks time.

Are you having him over for tea? :)

cindyabs Feb 16th 2010 10:18 am

Re: Palin for Pres in 2012?
 

Originally Posted by meauxna (Post 8348664)
Are you having him over for tea? :)

No, :lol: but I sure would like 5 minutes of his time.

nettlebed Feb 16th 2010 10:24 am

Re: Palin for Pres in 2012?
 

Originally Posted by cindyabs (Post 8348674)
No, :lol: but I sure would like 5 minutes of his time.

Stop looking at his feet!!!


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