Let's talk about cars
#8191
I was happy enough to ride my bicycle in the UK, even in London including central London (my chain came off once while I was riding around Marble Arch!!!
), but I think anyone who rides a bicycle in the US on a highway (outside of a residential estate/ neighbourhood, or maybe city centres) has to be suicidal.
Last edited by Pulaski; Dec 22nd 2025 at 2:35 am.
#8193
As for small cars - saw this in Bamberg, Germany in October ... pretty tiny!

#8195
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In many states in the EU the little 50cc cars don't require a full driving licence.
They serve a couple of niches, young drivers who aren't old enough for a full licence, and older drivers who might have had their licence revoked due to such transgressions as drink driving.
They don't look particularly safe and I'm not even sure if they have to pass NCAP tests.
Andy
They serve a couple of niches, young drivers who aren't old enough for a full licence, and older drivers who might have had their licence revoked due to such transgressions as drink driving.
They don't look particularly safe and I'm not even sure if they have to pass NCAP tests.
Andy
#8196
In many states in the EU the little 50cc cars don't require a full driving licence.
They serve a couple of niches, young drivers who aren't old enough for a full licence, and older drivers who might have had their licence revoked due to such transgressions as drink driving.
They don't look particularly safe and I'm not even sure if they have to pass NCAP tests.
Andy
They serve a couple of niches, young drivers who aren't old enough for a full licence, and older drivers who might have had their licence revoked due to such transgressions as drink driving.
They don't look particularly safe and I'm not even sure if they have to pass NCAP tests.
Andy
Which brings me to a 'driving related' observation (well, road-related). In the US, teenagers are now riding around on battery-powered bikes, and some of them are pretty powerful. I foresee a rash of nasty accidents in the future ... I don't think there's any cohesive regulation on 'e-bikes' to date. Is this also happening in Europe?
#8197
The 250cc limit for a provisional license was halved to 125cc in 1983, right around the time I was old enough for a licence (though I've never held a bike licence). I think that was the year after the licencing rules were changed to prohibit anyone riding around forever on a provisional licence.And to your point about highly tuned 250cc bikes, unsurprisingly it was only a few years after the 125cc cap was introduced that there were tuning kits available to take a 125cc bike to 70mph.
I do remember that one of the most desirable 250cc bikes of the early 1980's was a Honda 250 Superdream, and the 125cc limit caused Honda to immediately produce a 125cc Superdream, which looked emaciated compared to the 250.
Last edited by Pulaski; Dec 23rd 2025 at 6:52 am.
#8198
You're definitely showing your age there!
The 250cc limit for a provisional license was halved to 125cc in 1983, right around the time I was old enough for a licence (though I've never held a bike licence). I think that was the year after the licencing rules were changed to prohibit anyone riding around forever on a provisional licence.
And to your point about highly tuned 250cc bikes, unsurprisingly it was only a few years after the 125cc cap was introduced that there were tuning kits available to take a 125cc bike to 70mph.
I do remember that one of the most desirable 250cc bikes of the early 1980's was a Honda 250 Superdream, and the 125cc limit caused Honda to immediately produce a 125cc Superdream, which looked emaciated compared to the 250.
The 250cc limit for a provisional license was halved to 125cc in 1983, right around the time I was old enough for a licence (though I've never held a bike licence). I think that was the year after the licencing rules were changed to prohibit anyone riding around forever on a provisional licence.And to your point about highly tuned 250cc bikes, unsurprisingly it was only a few years after the 125cc cap was introduced that there were tuning kits available to take a 125cc bike to 70mph.
I do remember that one of the most desirable 250cc bikes of the early 1980's was a Honda 250 Superdream, and the 125cc limit caused Honda to immediately produce a 125cc Superdream, which looked emaciated compared to the 250.
#8199
In many states in the EU the little 50cc cars don't require a full driving licence.
They serve a couple of niches, young drivers who aren't old enough for a full licence, and older drivers who might have had their licence revoked due to such transgressions as drink driving.
They don't look particularly safe and I'm not even sure if they have to pass NCAP tests.
Andy
They serve a couple of niches, young drivers who aren't old enough for a full licence, and older drivers who might have had their licence revoked due to such transgressions as drink driving.
They don't look particularly safe and I'm not even sure if they have to pass NCAP tests.
Andy
#8200
I had a Honda 250cc circa 1980, while living in North London and driving into Uni in central London (cars were not an option!); then I passed the test, and got a Suzuki GT-380 3-cylinder 2-stroke - a real noisy, smelly, but incredibly fast rocket! I then got a job outside of London (Watford) so managed to get a car (paid 150 GBP for it!) - a Datsun 120Y! Unbelievably reliable little econo-box!
Last edited by philat98; Dec 23rd 2025 at 4:09 pm.
#8201
At my school in England there was no 6th form so no pupils had cars. Here at Konzum, ÄurÄ‘evac there is a high school next door to the the supermarket and I suspect quite a few pupils park in the Konzum car park. There are certainly a lot more spaces during the school holidays. Sometimes the car park is full but there are about 5 customers inside the shop!
#8202
I had a GT185 as well. And although I've owned a good many of the 90's crotch rockets that little beast was quite possibly one of the scariest/fun bikes I've owned. It's 2 stroke capabilities and awful 70's tires far exceeded it's stopping/handling abillity!!!
#8203
I fell off going round a roundabout in Newcastle on a wet night in rush hour traffic. As you say the tyres weren't too good.





