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MsElui Sep 22nd 2014 5:43 am

Dysons
 
Has anyone bought one of those Dyson hoovers that is the new style of the 'handheld unit with a long rigid noozle' like a DCC 44 or DC59 or similar.
http://www.dyson.com/vacuums/cordles...e&w=718&mh=454

Im wondering if they are any good? I have an old regular style Dyson upright and its a faff to take apart and use the hose attachments to do the stairs. I wondered if the handheld was any better?

thinbrit Sep 22nd 2014 5:55 am

Re: Dysons
 
Even if you don't intend to buy online, I find the best place for a wide range of reviews for products like this is on Amazon

DC59
Amazon.com: Customer Reviews: Dyson DC59 Animal Cordless Vacuum Cleaner

DC44
http://www.amazon.com/Dyson-DC44-Dig...owViewpoints=1

tonrob Sep 22nd 2014 10:22 am

Re: Dysons
 
I've got one of those. We like it very much. House is small (1600 sf), so dragging round a big vacuum was a pain with all the crap and furniture to navigate around. Thus makes vacuuming quick and easy. Not goof for a bigger house though I think as the capacity is quite small.

Bob Sep 22nd 2014 10:24 am

Re: Dysons
 
I haven't, but have been reading about it a fair bit.

Battery seems to be what it is, so if you've got a couple of floors or want to do a through clean, it probably won't work for you that well.

The new one doesn't have the trigger power button so it's less knackering to use if you're doing more than a couple of rooms.

Still no real elegant way of storing the attachments....don't think you can get spare batteries for the newer ones either.

Probably avoid saving money on the refurbs as most seem to have complaints about battery not being as good as new ones, but possibly 50/50 if you get a good one or not.

They are massively lighter compared to the old uprights though and they are very easy to move around, especially for low counter areas and such, but still wouldn't get under the lip of a fridge that easily without taking off the main head.

LeavingLondon Sep 22nd 2014 4:46 pm

Re: Dysons
 
I had one in the UK and loved it! It was amazing. Bought it from Costco. I wish i had it here (instead of the crappy dust buster that i bought) but it's so expensive here in the US. After all it is a glorified dust buster so not sure i can justify the price here

RICH Sep 22nd 2014 5:00 pm

Re: Dysons
 

Originally Posted by MsElui (Post 11414335)
Has anyone bought one of those Dyson hoovers that is the new style of the 'handheld unit with a long rigid noozle' like a DCC 44 or DC59 or similar.
http://www.dyson.com/vacuums/cordles...e&w=718&mh=454

Im wondering if they are any good? I have an old regular style Dyson upright and its a faff to take apart and use the hose attachments to do the stairs. I wondered if the handheld was any better?

So much for Dyson's marketing prowess. :lol:

Uncle_Bob Sep 22nd 2014 5:06 pm

Re: Dysons
 
I have a family member who used to work for Dyson. Dyson is a marketing genius, convincing people that Dyson products are better because they never lose suction and are somehow better for people with pets. And people pay hundreds of dollars for them.
How often do you see a Dyson in a commercial environment? The reason not, along with the price, is that the suction is not that great to begin with. Also notice how dyson ads don't list how powerful their vacuum motors are (AMPS).

We have a an upright bagless vacuum with a hepa filter for the last 8 years, cost around $160 from costco. For the stairs we have the following for around $40, works great.


sir_eccles Sep 22nd 2014 5:40 pm

Re: Dysons
 

Originally Posted by Uncle_Bob (Post 11414942)
I have a family member who used to work for Dyson. Dyson is a marketing genius, convincing people that Dyson products are better because they never lose suction and are somehow better for people with pets. And people pay hundreds of dollars for them.

He's a bit of a cock really. He had a chip on his shoulder about how the patent office treated him and by the time he won against Hoover his patent had pretty much expired. Boo hoo! Probably shouldn't have won either, what he did wasn't that novel.

In a way he is somewhat like Apple, nothing he produces is all that new he just makes it shiny and expensive.

hungryhorace Sep 22nd 2014 11:30 pm

Re: Dysons
 
Dyson make overpriced junk. If you want a proper vacuum buy a Miele or Sebo.

yellowroom Sep 22nd 2014 11:42 pm

Re: Dysons
 
My mum and dad have recently got one, and love it. As it's just them their house doesn't get dirty quickly, and mum loves being able to do a daily "whip round" with it. Works well with arthritic shoulders etc.

Dad has installed the holder in the cupboard under the stairs, so stores away ok for them too.

Bob Sep 23rd 2014 12:45 am

Re: Dysons
 

Originally Posted by Uncle_Bob (Post 11414942)
I have a family member who used to work for Dyson. Dyson is a marketing genius, convincing people that Dyson products are better because they never lose suction and are somehow better for people with pets. And people pay hundreds of dollars for them.
How often do you see a Dyson in a commercial environment? The reason not, along with the price, is that the suction is not that great to begin with. Also notice how dyson ads don't list how powerful their vacuum motors are (AMPS).

We have a an upright bagless vacuum with a hepa filter for the last 8 years, cost around $160 from costco. For the stairs we have the following for around $40, works great.

Amazon.com - Eureka EasyClean Corded Hand-Held Vacuum, 71B - Household Handheld Vacuums

The motors in the US version aren't as powerful as the UK ones, they're licensed Mitsubishi motor's here.

Bob Sep 23rd 2014 12:46 am

Re: Dysons
 

Originally Posted by sir_eccles (Post 11414951)
He's a bit of a cock really. He had a chip on his shoulder about how the patent office treated him and by the time he won against Hoover his patent had pretty much expired. Boo hoo! Probably shouldn't have won either, what he did wasn't that novel.

He got screwed by Amway more though, which was the real problem.

Guindalf Sep 23rd 2014 2:27 am

Re: Dysons
 
Why is it that some people seem to make it a sport of taking a huge dump in threads?

THe question is about specific models of a cleaner, not whether someone has made the 'right' choice.

Unless you have specific comments to make relating to the OP, STFU and move on!

hungryhorace Sep 23rd 2014 3:12 am

Re: Dysons
 

Originally Posted by Guindalf (Post 11415466)
Why is it that some people seem to make it a sport of taking a huge dump in threads?

THe question is about specific models of a cleaner, not whether someone has made the 'right' choice.

Unless you have specific comments to make relating to the OP, STFU and move on!

Maybe the OP should take notice of the feedback on Dyson? It's potentially saving them hundreds of dollars. As a smart man, I know what I would do.

MsElui Sep 23rd 2014 3:19 am

Re: Dysons
 

Originally Posted by hungryhorace (Post 11415516)
Maybe the OP should take notice of the feedback on Dyson? It's potentially saving them hundreds of dollars. As a smart man, I know what I would do.

I have a Dyson. suction/cleaning ability is way better than any other hoover ive ever owned (incl Miele and Hoover ) or used. Its just heavy. My entire ground floor bar one room - is hard floors of one sort or another and its my stairs that get more dirty than anywhere - so that is the area im specifically looking for an improvement.

The Upright dyson i have now cleans it fine - its just heavy and somewhat difficult to balance on staircases - so i specifically wanted to know if the model 'types' i showed above would likely be a better bet. I have several small dust busters already of various brands over the years and to be honest - i could suck more dirt up myself with a straw.

so are the models above the same kind of cleaning power but lighter/more easy to handle on stairs - because if so that will be perfect.

Bob Sep 23rd 2014 3:41 am

Re: Dysons
 

Originally Posted by MsElui (Post 11415522)

so are the models above the same kind of cleaning power but lighter/more easy to handle on stairs - because if so that will be perfect.

If you only intend to use it for stairs, or a few rooms as a top up vac, it would be perfect if it's in your budget.

It wouldn't be a great vac as a complete replacement to do your whole house with - Canister size and battery life being the pain in the butt for that.

N1cky Sep 23rd 2014 4:03 am

Re: Dysons
 

Originally Posted by MsElui (Post 11415522)
I have a Dyson. suction/cleaning ability is way better than any other hoover ive ever owned (incl Miele and Hoover ) or used. Its just heavy. My entire ground floor bar one room - is hard floors of one sort or another and its my stairs that get more dirty than anywhere - so that is the area im specifically looking for an improvement.

The Upright dyson i have now cleans it fine - its just heavy and somewhat difficult to balance on staircases - so i specifically wanted to know if the model 'types' i showed above would likely be a better bet. I have several small dust busters already of various brands over the years and to be honest - i could suck more dirt up myself with a straw.

so are the models above the same kind of cleaning power but lighter/more easy to handle on stairs - because if so that will be perfect.

I love my Dyson too. We had one in the UK, then when we moved here we only had 1 room with a carpet and hard floors everywhere else. I bought a Hoover, and the suction was terrible. We then lived in a house with a built in vacuum (that was fantastic). Then when we moved to this house, with the dog, I invested in a pet Dyson. I got a refurbed one, and saved around $200 on new. It's great, had it 3 years now and the suction is still fantastic. I was a bit worried about buying a refurb, but couldn't afford a new one, it turned out to be a great decision, so something to consider if you buy this model.

I too struggle with the stairs though, so if you buy one, let me know how you get on with this.

hungryhorace Sep 23rd 2014 6:26 am

Re: Dysons
 

Originally Posted by MsElui (Post 11415522)
I have a Dyson. suction/cleaning ability is way better than any other hoover ive ever owned (incl Miele and Hoover ) or used.

One of the main things I hate about Dyson (indeed, any bagless vacuum) is emptying the canister. The mess goes everywhere, and I inhale countless amounts of crap from the resulting debris. With my Miele, the bags capture and filter 99% of all airborne particles. Resulting in lovely clean air for me.

Dyson's HEPA performance is also non-existent compared to Miele. I'll dig out a few videos which highlight the abysmal HEPA performance the Dyson has.

tonrob Sep 23rd 2014 8:13 am

Re: Dysons
 

Originally Posted by N1cky (Post 11415576)
I love my Dyson too. We had one in the UK, then when we moved here we only had 1 room with a carpet and hard floors everywhere else. I bought a Hoover, and the suction was terrible. We then lived in a house with a built in vacuum (that was fantastic). Then when we moved to this house, with the dog, I invested in a pet Dyson. I got a refurbed one, and saved around $200 on new. It's great, had it 3 years now and the suction is still fantastic. I was a bit worried about buying a refurb, but couldn't afford a new one, it turned out to be a great decision, so something to consider if you buy this model.

I too struggle with the stairs though, so if you buy one, let me know how you get on with this.

Mine is fab on stairs. Light enough to make it easy. The canniester on this is quite small (ok for a small house like ours), so emptying it into our kitchen bin without making a mess never seems to be a problem.

scrubbedexpat091 Sep 23rd 2014 8:15 am

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Are Orecks any good still? I haven't used a household version since I was living at home with parents, but they have commercial versions and are popular with hotels and those work really well.

They used to have commercials showing their machines could pick up and hold a bowling ball....never did try it though to see if it was true.

N1cky Sep 23rd 2014 8:31 am

Re: Dysons
 

Originally Posted by tonrob (Post 11415885)
Mine is fab on stairs. Light enough to make it easy. The canniester on this is quite small (ok for a small house like ours), so emptying it into our kitchen bin without making a mess never seems to be a problem.

We've got stupid twisty stairs, so I have to reposition the vacuum 3 times to do ours, and it weighs a ton.

Emptying our canister never makes a mess either, it's one of those that's sealed in, until you press the button to release, so you can pop it in the bin then press the button. No mess.

N1cky Sep 23rd 2014 8:33 am

Re: Dysons
 

Originally Posted by MsElui (Post 11414335)
Has anyone bought one of those Dyson hoovers that is the new style of the 'handheld unit with a long rigid noozle' like a DCC 44 or DC59 or similar.
http://www.dyson.com/vacuums/cordles...e&w=718&mh=454

Im wondering if they are any good? I have an old regular style Dyson upright and its a faff to take apart and use the hose attachments to do the stairs. I wondered if the handheld was any better?

Thinking about it. Does this actually make life easier on the stairs? The biggest problem with mine is the dog likes to lay on them, so the rise's get really hairy. Could you actually position this to get the rise, underneath the lip?

Uncle_Bob Sep 23rd 2014 9:17 am

Re: Dysons
 

Originally Posted by Guindalf (Post 11415466)
Why is it that some people seem to make it a sport of taking a huge dump in threads?

THe question is about specific models of a cleaner, not whether someone has made the 'right' choice.

Unless you have specific comments to make relating to the OP, STFU and move on!

So what model do you have?

Bob Sep 23rd 2014 10:31 am

Re: Dysons
 

Originally Posted by hungryhorace (Post 11415762)
One of the main things I hate about Dyson (indeed, any bagless vacuum) is emptying the canister.

That's easy. You put a plastic grocery bag over the bottom of the canister before hitting the release button and it all goes straight in the bag which you tie up and chuck...

Guindalf Sep 23rd 2014 10:32 am

Re: Dysons
 

Originally Posted by Uncle_Bob (Post 11415981)
So what model do you have?

Totally irrelevant.

hungryhorace Sep 23rd 2014 4:12 pm

Re: Dysons
 

Originally Posted by Bob (Post 11416081)
That's easy. You put a plastic grocery bag over the bottom of the canister before hitting the release button and it all goes straight in the bag which you tie up and chuck...

That's terribly bothersome, and you still need to wash the container. Basically, I just hate them :)

Nutek Sep 23rd 2014 11:15 pm

Re: Dysons
 

Originally Posted by hungryhorace (Post 11416330)
need to wash the container.

Wut? Why?



Anyhow.. Love our Dyson. It was a bit pricey, but we are using it to gradually construct an additional Bulldog from all the bits of our existing Bulldog that it picks up from the carpets, and Bulldogs 'aint cheap either so it could end up being a bargain. :D

Our Dyson IS heavy, but its been running great since the day we got it 8(?) years ago. No complaints at all, which is rare from me.. :lol:

uk_grenada Sep 23rd 2014 11:29 pm

Re: Dysons
 
I have one in Grenada, its excellent for all my hard floors, does the whole house on a charge and is no bother to empty. The power brush does get girlie hair wrapped round it, but its easily removed by taking out the brush and cutting the hair with scissors. It also fits easily in a suitcase...

Bob Sep 24th 2014 12:41 am

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Why? I've never washed the container.

It's no bother, it's the reverse hassle of having to go out and buy a bag and put the bag in the machine...but less bothersome...

Bob Sep 24th 2014 12:43 am

Re: Dysons
 

Originally Posted by bob_grenada (Post 11416620)
...It also fits easily in a suitcase...

What? In case you have the urge to vacuum while on holiday? :D

uk_grenada Sep 24th 2014 12:53 am

Re: Dysons
 
Can you imagine how many dyson dealers there are in Gda, that'll be zero... If it goes wrong during its 5 year warrranty,or actually to bring it over, originally its easy to stuff into a case unlike just about any other vacuum i could think of. (Its a year old and perfect so far.)

I also have great respect for the bladeless fans, i have a few big ones used overnight. Very efficient and quieter than any bladed device.

Nutek Sep 24th 2014 12:58 am

Re: Dysons
 

Originally Posted by bob_grenada (Post 11416742)
I also have great respect for the bladeless fans, i have a few big ones used overnight. Very efficient and quieter than any bladed device.

Never used one, and I can see how it might be quieter, but I don't see how they can be better than a "bladed device" as they have blades, do they not?

Pulaski Sep 24th 2014 1:45 am

Re: Dysons
 

Originally Posted by hungryhorace (Post 11416330)
That's terribly bothersome, ....

You seem to find life terribly bothersome. :rolleyes:

We have a Dyson, full size, we've had it about ten years. It still works great, and isn't the least bit "bothersome", except on the stairs, so I might look into getting one of those small ones myself.


Originally Posted by MsElui (Post 11415522)
I have a Dyson. Suction/cleaning ability is way better than any other hoover I've ever owned .....

We found the Dyson to be the same too. When we first bought it we ran it over our carpets three times and it continued to pull from the carpets and collect in the canister a pale grey paste-like dust that our previous vacuum cleaner had not been removing. :sick: The Dyson also completely strips pet hair from carpet, which no other vacuum cleaner I have ever used was able to do.

uk_grenada Sep 24th 2014 2:07 am

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Compare like this. A dyson fan is an airbus a380 and a bladed fan is a 747, tuned cavity space in the turbine absorbs most of the noise leaving a quiet swishing, with no helicopter thrumming you get from blades. Also much safer for little fingers of course.

uk_grenada Sep 24th 2014 2:10 am

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The turbine is in the base, the hivh velocity but low volume combines with still air in the bladeless circle, which is really an aerofoil section, to more efficiently push out air in volume.

All i can say is that apart from the lack of noise, on full power its about 1/3 of the power consumption of my previous helicopter.

hungryhorace Sep 24th 2014 2:14 am

Re: Dysons
 

Originally Posted by Pulaski (Post 11416827)
The Dyson also completely strips pet hair from carpet, which no other vacuum cleaner I have ever used was able to do.

You've never had a Miele then ;p

Miele S8320 Cat & Dog | Vacuum Cleaners | TrustedReviews

"Frankly, the S8320 is another outstanding product from Miele. It is a vacuum cleaner that sets out with a purpose, pet hairs, and executes that with efficiency and flair. Yet its high power, control, flexibility, light weight and great range of tools make it a fabulous all-round vacuum cleaner for any home, with or without furry friends. "

Blows anything from crappy Dyson out of the water.

cynthia786 Sep 24th 2014 2:35 am

Re: Dysons
 

Originally Posted by MsElui (Post 11415522)
I have a Dyson. suction/cleaning ability is way better than any other hoover ive ever owned (incl Miele and Hoover ) or used. Its just heavy. My entire ground floor bar one room - is hard floors of one sort or another and its my stairs that get more dirty than anywhere - so that is the area im specifically looking for an improvement.

The Upright dyson i have now cleans it fine - its just heavy and somewhat difficult to balance on staircases - so i specifically wanted to know if the model 'types' i showed above would likely be a better bet. I have several small dust busters already of various brands over the years and to be honest - i could suck more dirt up myself with a straw.

so are the models above the same kind of cleaning power but lighter/more easy to handle on stairs - because if so that will be perfect.

I've had the hand-held one for coming up to three years now and use it on the stairs and landing as well as the kitchen and the dining area. Good suction and the battery power is enough to do the above. I use the upright dyson once a week to do the whole house.

uk_grenada Sep 24th 2014 2:44 am

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Wrong, i have a miele vacuum in london. Great device, but useless in a country where you cant get the bags and importing costsalot and there is no spare part system. The dyson is just right for my tiled floors in the caribbean.

Nutek Sep 24th 2014 2:47 am

Re: Dysons
 

Originally Posted by hungryhorace (Post 11416894)
Blows anything from crappy Dyson out of the water.



It's true that Dysons DO suck. :nod:

Pulaski Sep 24th 2014 2:51 am

Re: Dysons
 

Originally Posted by Nutek (Post 11416943)
It's true that Dysons DO suck. :nod:

Apparently Mieles blow. :unsure:


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