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Good for AOC taking a stand against corporate welfare.

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Absolutely.

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AOC is too militant and the fact she and Sanders are teamed up is quite concerning. Definitely a losing ticket.
Right now the leading candidates for the Democrat nomination are....

Biden
Bloomberg
Warren
Sanders
In that order.

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3 old white men

And Warren

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This is an excerpt from Triggered, I'm Not Mad, I'm Really Laughing by Donanld Trump, Jr., right?

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I don't know if your opinion of AOC is 100% correct, but unfortunately she portrays her self as a class warfare anarchist. Just like Trump, AOC is her own worse enemy because moderates that are drawn to both the Republican and Democrat parties will view AOC as toxic. And she is a intelligent person so she must know how her actions are seen in the public square. She is calculating there are enough people in the voting public to support her mentality and political agenda. She is completely incorrect on that assumption. America is a moderate political country with millions of people that don't even bother to vote.

But to compare AOC with Chavez in Venezuela is to misunderstand what is really happening in South America. I've been to several countries in that region of the world. I've seen Argentina right after democracy was started there. Just one year earlier they dealt with political opponents by throwing them out helicopters. AOC would be a conservative-moderate by their standards. When she decides to murder her political opponents then you might have a better argument. Or if AOC were to use foreign government's influence to try and steal our own elections like Trump with Ukraine and Russia then I would see your point. Trump is more like Chavez or Putin. Not a huge difference in a autocrat and a dictator. Just a updated version of a dictator that likes capitalism.

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I agree with you that diversity is a winning ticket but let's be honest an Obama comes along once in a generation. And the candidates which took the field in 2019 did not have the best mix of diversity. I think Deval Patrick could have won the whole thing but he like many others thought Joe Biden was going to run away with the nomination. Most moderate voters like myself just want to restore normalcy and is ok voting for the Democrat as long as that person is not extreme.

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With the right candidate who represents them they (the working class) will vote.

In my opinion Sanders is by far the best candidate, followed by Warren. You've named 2 others- they, and Buttigieg, all 3 are the same, and it would be a mistake to go for them as it would be missing a great opportunity to take advantage of having a very weak opponent in Trump to elect a socialist president.

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AOC can be compared to Chavez in that their political agendas run disturbingly parallel to each. Obviously the similarity ends in the matter of political violence as was practiced by Chavez and now Maduro.

Trump did not steal the election it was his to win. Why are you and so many others on this thread making excuses for Hillary? The Democrats lost their traditional voting base to Trump because he used his campaign to focus on the issues that bothered Americans so much at that time whereas Hillary was mediocre, uninspiring and contained little of any substance in her campaign speeches. She also had an unfortunate tendency to be disliked by undecided voters.

You are going overboard in comparing Trump to Putin and Chavez. Putin has manipulated the Russian political system in a way that no American President could ever dream of. He has a state police force that is basically the same as the former Soviet KGB. He has peaceful demonstrators arrested and thrown into prison even at one time a girls rock group which dared to make fun of him. His control is absolute but just to make a mockery of the political system he agrees to run for re-election now and again and of course he wins. Can you honestly even compare him to Chavez and Maduro or even bother bringing up the way south American countries carry out elections and deal with political opponents?

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Why is diversity such an issue All that's wanted is someone who can do the job.. whatever ! It's becoming a farce that ethnicity and gender are taking priority over ability and electability. If old white man Biden becomes President is it already in the books that a black female must be chosen to be his VP? So much posturing and bullshit. It's becoming like the casting process for a Hollywood movie

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It didn't matter to Amazon if they failed in their bid to get their facility in Queens and the bribery that went with it. Big businesses just move on to other prospective locations and other cities that are willing to give them bribes and promises of lower taxes also. What are you going to do about it. What would the Federal Govt do about it? Nothing because controlling the movement of business and the lucrative offers that are offered by other cities in other States would be infringing on State's Rights by the Federal Govt Live with it and weep.

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The old straw man argument. You're no fool IMO so you know darn well that the staggering cost to bring the system on line would take years, endless lawsuits, armies of lawyers. a trillion discussions in the House and Senate and the middle class would bear that staggering burden. Has it ever occurred to you also that Warren and Sanders are behaving like a couple of little dictators? Neither of them are willing to allow private healthcare to continue in existence. In the UK at least private healthcare is allowed to exist along with the NHS. Biden and Buttigieg agree that the choice of private healthcare should continue and ironing out the problems with the ACA would be the best solution for the uninsured. Why is anyone even listening to those other two clowns anymore ?

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It is truly difficult to convince people to take the time to vote. Folks rather spend three hours of their time watching American Idol than becoming better informed on the issues then selecting the best candidate. I have often wondered why remaining a Republican makes sense in this day in age when my party is more attracted to personality than competence and ability. That deficient way of thinking is why we keep selecting people like Sarah Palin, Trump and Bush Jr. It's the dumbing down of America which takes advantage of our party faithful, who willingly believe in the party no matter how extreme the party becomes.

Politics is like a religion to a great many people and especially if their parents were in that same party. If your parents are Baptist or Catholic and you were raised and influenced by that doctrine then that is who you become unless freedom of choice is more important to that individual. That explains why a great many Republicans make excuses for Trump's treason to the country by trying to steal the 2020 election using Ukraine to try and destroy political opponents.

That is why Barack Obama was a breath of fresh air. And I spent months canvasing for his election. Actually registered nearly 990 new voters all by myself. Had a HUGE sign on my front property which in my neighborhood made for interesting conversation. I stay in a community where politicians actually come into the community to ask for your support (money & vote).. Let's just say I started a conversation. I enjoy canvasing and have done so several times despite how time consuming it can be. Have knocked on a lot of doors during multiple campaigns. The number of Republicans versus Democrats are about even with Republicans being a slight minority. There are actually more legal age voters that are moderate or progressive thinkers but they are none voters, and believe going bowling or watching American Idol adds more to their life than voting.

So it's all about the Independents and the fact more people are becoming none affiliated with any political party. Which I'm leaning more toward. A socialist like Sanders that want to blow the national budget on things we can't afford will not sell well to Independents who tend to be reachable if the argument is reasonable. Telling middle class earners and upper middleclass people to pay 60% of their income for social programs is a brain fart at best. They should try to make Obama Care far better than it currently is and help everyone to better afford it's use. Trying to tell people they must get rid of their private insurance for a different untried system that they don't want and haven't asked for is similar to taking away personal freedom which is very anti American and it will not sell well. That is the reason why most of the Democrats including Warren have backed away from that idea. Only the Socialist Sanders and AOC are stubbornly sticking with an attempted healthcare coup. 101 of politics is don't take away things that people want and 102 is don't tell voters what they want is not important to you. They will simply vote for the crazy Orange faced guy that likes to hang out with Russian Autocrats and Saudi dictators.

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Diversity is a huge political catalyst for creating organic excitement among several voting blocks including young voters, minority voters and women voters. Diversity excites the base voters but draws in none traditional participants. The right message presented by a smart candidate who is a person of diversity is extremely hard to beat. Obama would crush Trump any day of the week.

Why do you not like diversity candidates?

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According to what? Could you please quote sources when you make these pronouncements. Is this just your opinion? I just did a quick search to see if I've been missing some major shift, but this is typical of what I saw (this is from NYTimes, updated 6-Dec-19):

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I'm not disagreeing (or agreeing) with your list but I want to know where it is coming from.