2020 Election
#916
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Re: 2020 Election
I certainly know that Canadians may not have cover in Canada either.
And if I visited the UK I would get some treatment under the NHS but certainly not all I did.
I could go through every other EU country, they all have limitations, the one thing in common is that none of them offer universal health care.
And if I visited the UK I would get some treatment under the NHS but certainly not all I did.
I could go through every other EU country, they all have limitations, the one thing in common is that none of them offer universal health care.
Of course, we're all used to you playing semantic games rather than discussing issues. Fortunately there are many posters on here who don't go down that road.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_health_care
#917
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Re: 2020 Election
So we can agree than nobody well currently provides universal coverage for very obvious reasons.
#919
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Re: 2020 Election
So which Country provides health care for undocumented? I can not think of one.
#920
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Re: 2020 Election
Article on how some donors are donating to multiple candidates at this stage. I guess the debate requirements for number of donors is encouraging this:
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...ial-candidate/
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...ial-candidate/
#921
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Re: 2020 Election
What is clear is that the USA is getting close to the tipping point on accepting the Govt being involved in the administration of Healthcare. The mid terms proved it had an appeal to a number of people and created a reason to vote. This goes back to my point around Trump - nobody is going to change their mind on him so the game is about getting the other people to the polls.
#922
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Re: 2020 Election
What is clear is that the USA is getting close to the tipping point on accepting the Govt being involved in the administration of Healthcare. The mid terms proved it had an appeal to a number of people and created a reason to vote. This goes back to my point around Trump - nobody is going to change their mind on him so the game is about getting the other people to the polls.
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019...-2020-election
#923
Re: 2020 Election
Well that clarifies that.
Now I think of it there has been a call for Reparations in the UK
https://www.theguardian.com/news/201...ainst-humanity
Now I think of it there has been a call for Reparations in the UK
https://www.theguardian.com/news/201...ainst-humanity
When will Britain face up to its crimes against humanity?
#924
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Re: 2020 Election
#925
Re: 2020 Election
The Dem's are making money off the back of "Moscow Mitch"
https://dailysoundandfury.com/kentuc...m_campaign=tti
https://dailysoundandfury.com/kentuc...m_campaign=tti
#926
Re: 2020 Election
https://www.npr.org/2019/07/10/74014...ted-immigrants
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/01/heal...nst-trump.html
*patiently awaiting moronic liberal to question authenticity of NPR and CNBC stating it's a Republican bandwagon*
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/01/heal...nst-trump.html
*patiently awaiting moronic liberal to question authenticity of NPR and CNBC stating it's a Republican bandwagon*
#927
Re: 2020 Election
I certainly know that Canadians may not have cover in Canada either.
And if I visited the UK I would get some treatment under the NHS but certainly not all I did.
I could go through every other EU country, they all have limitations, the one thing in common is that none of them offer universal health care.
And if I visited the UK I would get some treatment under the NHS but certainly not all I did.
I could go through every other EU country, they all have limitations, the one thing in common is that none of them offer universal health care.
I don't understand why you are even making the argument, though ... why not just think of all the current talk of 'universal' as meaning, 'a lot more people will be covered than under today's plan'?
#928
Re: 2020 Election
Let's not lose sight that his point was that Canada and Europe don't count as socialist because their healthcare doesn't meet a standard he decided on.
#929
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Re: 2020 Election
https://www.vox.com/2019/4/10/183044...dicare-for-all
I just chose Bernie as I do believe Bernie believes in the majority of his policies. I just do not see how it is practical, US has some very good Healthcare, but that is the exception. So now everybody has access to that very good horribly expensive Healthcare, there are Drugs that cost $2m a treatment.
It also includes long term care and I know quite a few people going through this at great cost, and I am sure they would love this. How is it affordable? Even with the waste in the current system which is significant, what European Country has worked out how to do this?, I know the UK has not.
Just look at the demographics, we are all getting older, people are sicker, more treatments are available and will be available and the cost is increasing as anything with a large labour and research element will.
20% of GDP is currently spent, for argument lets say that is a reasonable amount, decide how you get the biggest bang for that buck and do that, do not promise what you can not deliver. Tough if you need that $2m treatment but that would do a lot more good in preventative care.
#930
Re: 2020 Election
We keep hearing that providing healthcare for all US residents is too expensive and unaffordable, yet under the present mishmash of healthcare systems and providers, the US far pays more per person than any other developed country, with few if any better outcomes. With no healthcare at all for a significant number of it's population. A situation many those with good payed for healthcare are seemingly indifferent to.
Not to mention all the discarded throw away people, not wanted here, lying on the sidewalks and doorways of every major city in the USA.
Healthcare costs
Not to mention all the discarded throw away people, not wanted here, lying on the sidewalks and doorways of every major city in the USA.
Healthcare costs
Last edited by johnwoo; Aug 6th 2019 at 11:47 pm.