Originally Posted by robin1234 (Post 12930459)

So, you can win an election, but not have a mandate? How does that work? You mean, the president would be a “caretaker,” like some of those Italian prime ministers??

Originally Posted by markonline1 (Post 12930460)

I have a couple of good friends that are die hard Trump cult members. I have to mute one on Facebook every 30 days, but other than that, I don’t let any politics dictate my friendship. Occasionally we’ll talk about it, normally taking the piss out of each other, we don’t argue about it, but I don’t let politics discrete my friendships or who I deal with. Surely, that’s one of the big problems with this country right now isn’t it?

Originally Posted by Boiler (Post 12930439)

That is the amusing thing, he had been a Dem for most his life.

Originally Posted by BEVS (Post 12930280)

Yup. We can agree to differ. I'm more socialist & left wing. You are conservative & republican . So unlikely to meet.

It isn't about if Dems made a right choice of leadership , which lets face it, is from a shallow pool and up against utter filth. To write that Dems will have only themselves to blame is a deflection, a victimisation and I suppose what I kind of object to. Trump is more than showing himself to come from the bottom of a decaying turd , to be frank , and yet people are all hailing this as the next coming .

The point is that individuals should be only and primarily looking at Trump and Pence and really, really thinking NO NO NO . Not 4 more years of that crud. I quote a certain someone who suggested he was a "Lame Duck President". Oh no he wasn't and isn't. I never thought he was. He brings End Days for many.

If it was not for the daft electoral college and the types of ideology that Sultan and Dakota and Lion mention I would certainly think he would be booted off this solar system and more but it seems that many people are not for community or social structures for the good of a nation and its land and this one world. They are for themselves, so will overlook this utter disgusting admin and vote for it.

Look what there was and now look what there is. It should be no contest even if Dems put up a scarecrow.

Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing (Post 12930463)

Anyway, where I draw the line is when people start bringing in racism, sexism or any other bigotry. That starts to put strain on things.

Luckily that's not happened to me with actual friends. Only acquaintances I rarely see.

Originally Posted by markonline1 (Post 12930488)

That’s completely fair. Funnily enough, the guys I know have shown no racist, sexist or bigoted views. I genuinely think most cult members don’t have these qualities. But what’s weird is they either aren’t able to see those qualities in Trump, or simply don’t care.
The latest statement where he’s going on about fraud, I mean that’s down right dangerous. I seem to remember another leader winning an election and then refusing to give up power. It didn’t end too well if I remember correctly.

Originally Posted by markonline1 (Post 12930460)

I have a couple of good friends that are die hard Trump cult members. I have to mute one on Facebook every 30 days, but other than that, I don’t let any politics dictate my friendship. Occasionally we’ll talk about it, normally taking the piss out of each other, we don’t argue about it, but I don’t let politics discrete my friendships or who I deal with. Surely, that’s one of the big problems with this country right now isn’t it?

Originally Posted by dave_j (Post 12930530)

Hands up!
Got it wrong.... again. Predicted a landslide but failed to asses the mania abroad in the US properly.
Think I'll go away and boil my head in goose fat.

Originally Posted by Boiler (Post 12930556)

Big question is whether they will learn?

Originally Posted by Steerpike (Post 12930571)

So it seems we have 238 'decided', and if the dems get WI (10), MI (16), NV (6) that gives them 270 = won, without PA, GA, NC. Am I doing the maths correctly there?
If either of WI, MI, NV goes Rep, then PA has to go Dem (unless GA or NC come through for Dems).
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...7c71a4807f.png
(edit - corrected math for Nevada! - 6 not 10).