2020 Election
#3991
Re: 2020 Election
Meanwhile, casual racism from a Republican politician (also posted on the Biden thread):
https://twitter.com/chipfranklin/status/1295548636298792960
https://twitter.com/chipfranklin/status/1295548636298792960
#3992
Re: 2020 Election
Meanwhile, casual racism from a Republican politician (also posted on the Biden thread):
https://twitter.com/chipfranklin/status/1295548636298792960
https://twitter.com/chipfranklin/status/1295548636298792960
#3993
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Re: 2020 Election
A black man couldn't possibly be a team owner, could he? Me thinks that with this new video, this cop is going to be in legal jeopardy given his possibly fraudulent disability claim. If this kind of casual racism does not get the voters off their chairs what will?
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...-officer-shove
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...-officer-shove
Last edited by Giantaxe; Aug 19th 2020 at 5:04 pm.
#3994
Re: 2020 Election
A black man couldn't possibly be a team owner, could he? Me thinks that with this new video, this cop is going to be in legal jeopardy given his possibly fraudulent disability claim. If this kind of casual racism does not get the voters off their chairs what will?
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...-officer-shove
https://twitter.com/tomgara/status/1295907419243966465
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...-officer-shove
https://twitter.com/tomgara/status/1295907419243966465
#3995
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Re: 2020 Election
You’ve got to wonder why such a high proportion of police officers are violent, dishonest scumbags. And they are highly sought after for security guard and other similar gigs! There is something fundamentally very sick in this country.
#3996
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Re: 2020 Election
Are we talking about a high proportion just in the USA? Define high proportion? I tend to think you might be surprised that it is not a very high proportion even if just referring to US officers. Certainly all forces can have violent, dishonest scumbags but all having high proportions???????
#3997
Re: 2020 Election
Are we talking about a high proportion just in the USA? Define high proportion? I tend to think you might be surprised that it is not a very high proportion even if just referring to US officers. Certainly all forces can have violent, dishonest scumbags but all having high proportions???????
#3998
Re: 2020 Election
Are we talking about a high proportion just in the USA? Define high proportion? I tend to think you might be surprised that it is not a very high proportion even if just referring to US officers. Certainly all forces can have violent, dishonest scumbags but all having high proportions???????
Edit: the data is nearly 30 years old, no recent data to say if it's gone up or down
Last edited by kimilseung; Aug 19th 2020 at 11:57 pm.
#3999
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Re: 2020 Election
It's 45 minutes but its a good watch for anyone who has never seen it. Bottom line, don't speak to the police.
#4000
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Re: 2020 Election
It's not just about the percentage that are "bad apples" though. For example, it's also about ingrained police policies that escalate rather than deescalate. You can see that in this example. All that officer masquerading as a security guard needed to do was say something like "Sir, I need to see your pass before I can let you on court". Instead, even though Ujiri was clearly getting his pass out (it's visible on the video), the guard immediately goes for the "back the f**k off" vocal shit, and violently shoves him away. And that's the same kind of scenario we've seen in so many of these tragic incidents. Something is systemically wrong with US policing.
#4001
Re: 2020 Election
That's pretty obvious, but we have to remember the case in question didn't involve a police officer. Bigshot self-important security guards don't get the same training, testing, or screening (or the same pay) as police recruits. Mr Pushy might get slapped with a counter-suit and lose everything he owns, and he won't have a police union/benevolent association to bear the legal costs. If he has anything worth taking I'd sue the ass off him.
#4002
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Re: 2020 Election
That's pretty obvious, but we have to remember the case in question didn't involve a police officer. Bigshot self-important security guards don't get the same training, testing, or screening (or the same pay) as police recruits. Mr Pushy might get slapped with a counter-suit and lose everything he owns, and he won't have a police union/benevolent association to bear the legal costs. If he has anything worth taking I'd sue the ass off him.
"Although Alameda County Sheriff Greg Ahern initially requested Ujiri be charged with battery of a peace officer, the Alameda County District Attorney’s Office declined to press charges after an investigation ended with a meeting among the office, Ujiri and his lawyers in October.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sport...ve-nba-finals/
#4003
Re: 2020 Election
I stand corrected; thought he was just a rent-a-cop. I guess I'm used to seeing police in full duty regalia, however his guy must have had his vest on to hold a body camera so I just wasn't paying attention.
Last edited by caretaker; Aug 20th 2020 at 6:25 am.
#4004
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Re: 2020 Election
That guy was a sheriff's deputy. The Alameda County sheriff wanted Ujiri charged:
"Although Alameda County Sheriff Greg Ahern initially requested Ujiri be charged with battery of a peace officer, the Alameda County District Attorney’s Office declined to press charges after an investigation ended with a meeting among the office, Ujiri and his lawyers in October.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sport...ve-nba-finals/
"Although Alameda County Sheriff Greg Ahern initially requested Ujiri be charged with battery of a peace officer, the Alameda County District Attorney’s Office declined to press charges after an investigation ended with a meeting among the office, Ujiri and his lawyers in October.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sport...ve-nba-finals/
#4005
Re: 2020 Election
Looks like I was wrong about the 180 - the sheriff department is still pursuing the assault case against the victim. Are they hoping for a blind jury or somehow blocking the footage that shows it was entirely one-sided? I hope he sues the whole department personally, so no public money is used and these corrupt police actually get some consequences for their actions.