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Re: 2020 Election
Originally Posted by johnwoo
(Post 12890026)
What Thucydides Knew About the US Today"there were the savage and pitiless actions into which men were carried not so much for the sake of gain as because they were swept away into an internecine struggle by their ungovernable passions."https://getpocket.com/explore/item/w...=pocket-newtab Old Thicksides. Plus ca change, eh? |
Re: 2020 Election
Originally Posted by mrken30
(Post 12890982)
I just love some of these election ads. Sometimes it difficult to tell the real ones from the fake ones.
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Re: 2020 Election
Originally Posted by The Mirror
(Post 12890851)
You guys need to get over Hilary, she's a private citizen.. It's 2020 and it's really hard for anybody to HATE Joe Biden.
Well he has MeToo and BLM issues, we come down to the basic premise that any normal person would be mad to stand. So we get the choice we get. Assuming he lasts one term then a second seems unbelievably likely so setting up the VP for the next. I am not sure he will last one term so am particularly interested in the VP pick. |
Re: 2020 Election
Originally Posted by Boiler
(Post 12891145)
anybody
Well he has MeToo and BLM issues, we come down to the basic premise that any normal person would be mad to stand. So we get the choice we get. Assuming he lasts one term then a second seems unbelievably likely so setting up the VP for the next. I am not sure he will last one term so am particularly interested in the VP pick. |
Re: 2020 Election
I thought Amy had said no, not sure she could get over the colour issue.
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Re: 2020 Election
Assuming he lasts one term then a second seems unbelievably likely so setting up the VP for the next. |
Re: 2020 Election
Originally Posted by Boiler
(Post 12891150)
I thought Amy had said no, not sure she could get over the colour issue.
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Re: 2020 Election
Originally Posted by civilservant
(Post 12891151)
Karen Bass seems to be getting a serious look if press speculation is to be believed. I find it unlikely she would run to succeed Biden. She seems to have as much interest in advancing her own agenda and being in the spotlight as she does in contracting the clap.
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Re: 2020 Election
One thing for sure we are hearing a lot of fear coming from the Republican side about Harris being Biden's pick. The last thing they want is a smart debater who can execute the case for the election of Joe Biden while exciting the base. Harris is African American and Asian and that fact terrorizes the Republican party just like Obama's effect on the voting base. She is pro tough on crime while supporting BlacklivesMatter. She will be very difficult to attack effectively.
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Re: 2020 Election
Originally Posted by UkWinds5353
(Post 12891353)
One thing for sure we are hearing a lot of fear coming from the Republican side about Harris being Biden's pick. The last thing they want is a smart debater who can execute the case for the election of Joe Biden while exciting the base. Harris is African American and Asian and that fact terrorizes the Republican party just like Obama's effect on the voting base. She is pro tough on crime while supporting BlacklivesMatter. She will be very difficult to attack effectively.
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Re: 2020 Election
Originally Posted by UkWinds5353
(Post 12891353)
One thing for sure we are hearing a lot of fear coming from the Republican side about Harris being Biden's pick. The last thing they want is a smart debater who can execute the case for the election of Joe Biden while exciting the base. Harris is African American and Asian and that fact terrorizes the Republican party just like Obama's effect on the voting base. She is pro tough on crime while supporting BlacklivesMatter. She will be very difficult to attack effectively.
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Re: 2020 Election
Originally Posted by HDWill
(Post 12891359)
I think you're overestimating the effect of a VP candidate in a presidential election. Her racial background 'terrorizes' the Republic Party? Erm...
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Re: 2020 Election
Originally Posted by andyrebell
(Post 12891364)
But biden probably won't do a full term due to age and dementia so the VP pick if that comes to pass would be the incumbent president and/or the candidate to fight the 2024 election?
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Re: 2020 Election
Biden and Trump both are in their 70s and for that reason the VP pick is more important than in other election cycles. Pence brings absolutely nothing to the re-election process for swing voters. He did bring reassurance to conservatives in 2016. The electorate is in a different mood in 2020. But Biden picking a woman of color will ignite voter excitement in the base similar to what was seen with Obama. Women feel it's time a woman is in the White House helping to decide the future of this country. Exciting 40 million African Americans, 47 million Hispanic Americans and 35 million Asian and Muslim American is terrorizing to the GOP.
I look forward to seeing how that excites States that are only a few election cycles from turning blue like Georgia. Let us not forget that Colorado, Virginia and Nevada were all once reliable Republican strong holds 20 years ago until the migration of moderate and Democrat voters moved in and changed those states from red to blue strong holds. People are migrating from the cities to suburban areas and that is damaging the future of the Republican party. If you look at the electoral map the red states controlled by Republicans are located in less populated rural states. If more moderate voters leave places like California NYC ect because of high cost of living that becomes a serious game changer. Pay attention to Arizona this year. There are a lot of former Californians in the Cardinal state. |
Re: 2020 Election
Originally Posted by UkWinds5353
(Post 12891353)
One thing for sure we are hearing a lot of fear coming from the Republican side about Harris being Biden's pick. The last thing they want is a smart debater who can execute the case for the election of Joe Biden while exciting the base. Harris is African American and Asian and that fact terrorizes the Republican party just like Obama's effect on the voting base. She is pro tough on crime while supporting BlacklivesMatter. She will be very difficult to attack effectively.
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