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GeneralPowerpoint Jul 20th 2020 5:34 am

Re: 2020 Election
 

Originally Posted by SpoogleDrummer (Post 12884645)
He can't physically do it himself, he gives an order and some other saps have to activate the the launch, I think Andy is thinking he has a button that he can just press with no-one else being involved.

Wouldn't be a bad idea to give him a big red dummy button as a distraction.

Former Lancastrian Jul 20th 2020 6:32 am

Re: 2020 Election
 

Originally Posted by GeneralPowerpoint (Post 12884694)
Wouldn't be a bad idea to give him a big red dummy button as a distraction.

Don't Staples still sell the big red button you press that says That Was Easy.

andyrebell Jul 20th 2020 7:18 am

Re: 2020 Election
 

Originally Posted by GeneralPowerpoint (Post 12884694)
Wouldn't be a bad idea to give him a big red dummy button as a distraction.

Do you think Biden would know what that big red button did?.

civilservant Jul 20th 2020 7:30 am

Re: 2020 Election
 

Do you think Biden would know what that big red button did?.
Seeing as he would have been briefed on such a hypothetical 'red button' as Vice President, I'm fairy sure he'd know what it did, yes.

MMcD Jul 20th 2020 9:27 am

Re: 2020 Election
 

Originally Posted by civilservant (Post 12882021)
Another smack in the face for Trump from The Lincoln Project.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6wI...em-uploademail


And yet another today when the AP announced the Lincoln Project was behind an agreement with the DNC to have REPUBLICAN ( ! ) ex Ohio Gov. John Kasich speak at the Democratic Nominating Convention.

The AP also reports this revelation has been greeted within the Democratic Party by both enthusiastic support and horrified astonishment.

https://www.cleveland.com/open/2020/...joe-biden.html

WAPO words of caution / food for thought:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...is-surprising/

MMcD Jul 20th 2020 10:42 am

Re: 2020 Election
 

Originally Posted by MMcD (Post 12884400)

Think Portland. Our LAWless and dis-ORDERed President will retroactively camouflage his tyranny by cloaking it in the jumbo-mumbo of an Executive Order.
He'll then foment dissension here, there and everywhere.
And "legitamise" each storming of the troopers with an EO.

As his poll numbers fall and our Covid numbers rise - the antics of his storm troopers will increase.
Divide. Conquer. Distract
This will be prologue to the main event:
Election 2020

Here we go https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...wma-story.html

First it was Washington DC
Then Portland
Now Chicago
Next (tbd)
From sea to shining sea
And border to border wall fence
This is horrific

zzrmark Jul 20th 2020 11:02 am

Re: 2020 Election
 

Originally Posted by TexanScot (Post 12884569)
Not that I want to split hairs, but I don't think it's quite correct to say that they work "for" the President.

The President is certainly the most prominent protectee that the Secret Service have, but as as Federal LEO would it not be more correct to say that they work "for" Congress, especially given their dual (and original) mandate to protect the integrity of the financial system?

You are correct sir, I was trying to keep things very simple, partly because as soon as we go down that rabbit hole we have to admit that the USSS provide protection for both the current president as well as those who have served as president. I don't even know if it would be down to an SS detail to remove a lapsed president holding a sit-in in the White House or if some other federal body holds responsibility for carrying out the physical aspect of that task.

Leslie Jul 20th 2020 1:38 pm

Re: 2020 Election
 

Originally Posted by morpeth (Post 12884415)
Good question, I haven't thought about it sufficiently.to have an opinion either way. in particular since there appears such a wide variety of opinions on different aspects of the corona situation.

Oh.

I understand how busy you are Googling Joe Biden's net worth while conveniently not Googling how he actually came to have that net worth and then posting on the internet (about 500 times in this thread) a warped and distorted version of how you want people to think he got that net worth. Because that's what this election is really about. Nobody is thinking about some silly virus because why would they? It's not like it effects every single American living in the US or anything. It's not like there are freezer trucks full of dead bodies in Dallas/Houston/Phoenix/Miami etc. It's ridiculous to think the silly virus will effect the election. For goodness sake, those body bags can't even vote. Who cares about them, right?

Of course you haven't thought about it sufficiently. That sounds perfectly plausible and non-Trump shilling.

I have another question for you. In this particular case, if you haven't had time to think about this sufficiently, why don't you take the time to think about it and then answer? Because if you can't/won't then I sort of wonder why you're posting in the 2020 Election thread.

Question: Of the two candidates, who do you trust to deal with insurance affordability, healthcare and public health?

Leslie Jul 20th 2020 2:23 pm

Re: 2020 Election
 

Originally Posted by morpeth (Post 12884410)
I do not know which candidate I would vote for. Nixon was a disreputable character yet adept in many aspects of foreign policy, Carter probably one of most decent Presidents we have had yet by most accounts not too effective.

Nixon was never a governor. He was a senator though and a VPOTUS. Sounds familiar except Nixon was much wealthier than Biden.

And Carter actually was a governor. I thought your theory was that the governor thingy was more important. Hmmmm ... history is a pesky thing.


Notwithstanding i believe experience should be considered, I admit I am partial to some like Bernie Sanders, Andrew Yang or Rand Paul who all seem to have a clear vision whether I agree with it or not. A vote for a third party candidate would just be a protest vote achieving nothing.
Clear vision is more important what they actually are intending to do IRL? Just as long as their vision is clear about it. Okey-dokey.

Can we get a spread sheet or Venn diagram or sumfink?

Giantaxe Jul 20th 2020 2:56 pm

Re: 2020 Election
 

Originally Posted by morpeth (Post 12884415)
Good question, I haven't thought about it sufficiently.to have an opinion either way. in particular since there appears such a wide variety of opinions on different aspects of the corona situation.

What do you think of Trump's handling of the pandemic so far?

kimilseung Jul 20th 2020 2:56 pm

Re: 2020 Election
 

Originally Posted by MMcD (Post 12884851)
Here we go https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...wma-story.html

First it was Washington DC
Then Portland
Now Chicago
Next (tbd)
From sea to shining sea
And border to border wall fence
This is horrific

This is nothing with Trumps belief in almost unrestricted Executive power since the DACA decision. We are going to have some shocking EO on health-care, immigration, inner-city law enforcement, in the coming weeks. All backed up by Mr water-boarding and torture are OK (John Yoo)

kimilseung Jul 20th 2020 3:05 pm

Re: 2020 Election
 

Originally Posted by Olly_ (Post 12884564)
Everything in Trump world is coming in 'two weeks' - I doubt anything will happen.

Its coming, Guardian did a good article on it
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-waterboarding

kimilseung Jul 20th 2020 3:09 pm

Re: 2020 Election
 
We are ****ed, and the slow slide of democracy to tyranny that many of us have been watching and others ignoring has gotten a little bit further and little bit more concerning since the weekend.

spouse of scouse Jul 20th 2020 3:25 pm

Re: 2020 Election
 

Originally Posted by kimilseung (Post 12884916)
We are ****ed, and the slow slide of democracy to tyranny that many of us have been watching and others ignoring has gotten a little bit further and little bit more concerning since the weekend.

I'm still shaking my head at his description of the two World Wars as 'beautiful World Wars'. In fact, I strongly suspect my head is going to fall off very soon.

andyrebell Jul 20th 2020 9:42 pm

Re: 2020 Election
 

Originally Posted by civilservant (Post 12884750)
Seeing as he would have been briefed on such a hypothetical 'red button' as Vice President, I'm fairy sure he'd know what it did, yes.

But he has dementia so maybe he will forget the briefing and then maybe one day he will think that button is to call for maid service in the oval office. And when no maid comes in push it again and again. And nukes will be flying everywhere. God help us.


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