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Old May 13th 2020, 3:36 am
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Look at CNN viewership, tiny.
It would be really helpful when you make statements like this to post some sort of reference.
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Thanks.
From that site:
"The three big cable news networks owned the top spots across all of cable for the month both in primetime and the total day: Fox News ranked first in both measures, averaging 3.68 million viewers in primetime — its best month ever — and 2.24 million for the whole day, per Nielsen same-day figures. MSNBC (2.04 million) ranked second in primetime, just ahead of CNN's 1.95 million. The two switched places in total-day rankings, with CNN at 1.36 million and MSNBC at 1.28 million."

So Fox almost outdoes both it's competitors combined. Yikes.

Considering the population is 328 million, that means about 1% are watching Fox, and less than 1% watching the other guys. Those don't seem high numbers to me. I just checked with my 30-something nephew; he doesn't have cable service, he streams everything over data. When I asked about what 'news channel' he watched, he didn't really understand the question - the concept is alien to him, and I wouldn't be surprised if that's not typical for all his generation.
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Exactly and these numbers have had a major bump from COVID.
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Thanks.
From that site:
"The three big cable news networks owned the top spots across all of cable for the month both in primetime and the total day: Fox News ranked first in both measures, averaging 3.68 million viewers in primetime — its best month ever — and 2.24 million for the whole day, per Nielsen same-day figures. MSNBC (2.04 million) ranked second in primetime, just ahead of CNN's 1.95 million. The two switched places in total-day rankings, with CNN at 1.36 million and MSNBC at 1.28 million."

So Fox almost outdoes both it's competitors combined. Yikes.

Considering the population is 328 million, that means about 1% are watching Fox, and less than 1% watching the other guys. Those don't seem high numbers to me. I just checked with my 30-something nephew; he doesn't have cable service, he streams everything over data. When I asked about what 'news channel' he watched, he didn't really understand the question - the concept is alien to him, and I wouldn't be surprised if that's not typical for all his generation.
I much prefer to watch Fox over CNN, and definitely over MSNBC. Fox is an extra bonus for me wanting to stream the EPL. None of the three are news.
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The closest thing I watch to a news channel is the local network news on occasion, but in general I do not watch TV news, almost all the news I get is online from network news. I do browse CNN website sometimes when bored, but generally I dislike their website and its not my first choice.

Only US new channel we get as part of our cable plan is CNN, Fox News is available though as a $4/month add on as are a few other news networks like BBC.



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Strange that Kushner thinks the election might be delayed when he has said the virus is defeated and the economy will be rockin in July.


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He's a dilettante. He clearly isn't aware that only Congress can change the date of the election. Think Pelosi will go for that? I think not.
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He's a dilettante. He clearly isn't aware that only Congress can change the date of the election. Think Pelosi will go for that? I think not.
Yes but after bringing peace to the Middle East, moving the election back should be trivial for a person of Kushner’s “calibre”.
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He's a dilettante. He clearly isn't aware that only Congress can change the date of the election. Think Pelosi will go for that? I think not.
Not a bad idea. Maybe it would give the Dems more time to come up with a better candidate than Biden.
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Thanks.
From that site:
"The three big cable news networks owned the top spots across all of cable for the month both in primetime and the total day: Fox News ranked first in both measures, averaging 3.68 million viewers in primetime — its best month ever — and 2.24 million for the whole day, per Nielsen same-day figures. MSNBC (2.04 million) ranked second in primetime, just ahead of CNN's 1.95 million. The two switched places in total-day rankings, with CNN at 1.36 million and MSNBC at 1.28 million."

So Fox almost outdoes both it's competitors combined. Yikes.

Considering the population is 328 million, that means about 1% are watching Fox, and less than 1% watching the other guys. Those don't seem high numbers to me. I just checked with my 30-something nephew; he doesn't have cable service, he streams everything over data. When I asked about what 'news channel' he watched, he didn't really understand the question - the concept is alien to him, and I wouldn't be surprised if that's not typical for all his generation.
Presumably viewership of these channels is skewed to older demographics who tend to vote more. Also the influence of Fox is clearly more than its viewership: look at how Trump & Fox are pretty much in lockstep. But otoh it is gratifying to see the numbers are so low.
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That was another poster. Anyway, it does seem to me that Trump's 'floor' of support is higher than many past candidates, as many people have developed a personal loyalty to him, and it doesn't matter what he says or does at this point. A loyalty that they didn't feel for George W Bush, John McCain, John Kerry etc. But there's still that nebulous 5% who are 'low information voters' and wait until near the end to decide. Of course the pandemic throws a fascinating spanner in the works... elderly voters skewed towards Trump in 2016, but maybe a significant number are particularly sensitive to his failures combating the virus?
Lol, sorry for the mix up.

Republican flipped a Democratic seat in Califonia today, first time the GOP have taken a Blue district in California since 1998, it is back on the ballot in November and may well flip back but goes to show that there is enough support in some places for local GOP representatives to take seats.
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Republican flipped a Democratic seat in Califonia today, first time the GOP have taken a Blue district in California since 1998, it is back on the ballot in November and may well flip back but goes to show that there is enough support in some places for local GOP representatives to take seats.
It was also flipped by the Democrats in 2018 after being a Republican seat since 1990. Throw in Hill's resignation and it probably isn't that big a surprise. Pretty disappointing for the Democrats though.
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Not a bad idea. Maybe it would give the Dems more time to come up with a better candidate than Biden.
Problem with a delay is it really can't be delayed very long or things get interesting come January, the terms of the entire house is up January 3, and President and VP is up January 20 at 12 noon, there would still be a partial senate however as the entire senate is no up for election this year.

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Trump definitely know he is in serious trouble because the negative ads have began early especially in the swing states. He is going to be forced to defend in several traditional Republican held states. Biden is actually leading in the polls in Georgia and the governor there is only making Trump's chances far worse by prematurely opening up that state and exposing every resident to further infections and death. Most governors nationwide have an extra high opinion poll number dealing with the pandemic, but Kemp in the peach state is down in the low 36% range. Guess those citizens have figured out they're best interest are not being considered the main priority. The Democrats are in a strong position to pick up Senate seats in Montana, North Carolina, Colorado, Arizona and Maine. It's starting to feel like Biden could have enough coat-tails to flip a few unexpected down ballot seats. I wonder if Iowa could go blue.
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