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The DNC will ensure Biden is the nominee and he’ll go on to lose in November. That’s been pretty clear for months. Bottom line is that the Democrat establishment would rather see Trump in the White House than Sanders and they’re making it happen.

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Logically Warren should drop out and support Bernie, if the fix is really in we can expect to see something else.

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So you believe that Bloomberg is taking instructions from the DNC? Did the DNC want him in the race to begin with?

I'm sure the DNC has pressured certain candidates to quit the race, but realistically none of those candidates had the remotest chance of winning the nomination.

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My guess is we will never know what really has been happening, I would imagine some of it will come out in dribs and drabs.

Bloomberg, I would imagine he finally realised he could not buy this one and did a deal. Seems logical he would have had a Plan B and cashed in his chips.There has been an orchestrated campaign to cut him down, I thought he might just walk away so presume something to his liking has been offered.

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So you have information that proves that Bernie would/will undoubtedly beat Trump when/if he gets the nomination?

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Did you quote the wrong post, where is that said or even implied.

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He promised from the start to keep his campaign offices open until after the election and apparently has signed contracts with his staff to pay them until then. So "walking away" was never on the cards. My point is you're quick to shout "fix", but the idea that the DNC can orchestrate Bloomberg - the only candidate to drop out that has had non-trivial support in recent polls - is not supported by much, if anything.

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He has 9 delegates.

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Gee, I don't know. I'm so stupid I needed you to come along and tell me what I should say and to whom I should say it.

As stupid as I am, I do know for a fact that I wasn't talking to you.

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The DNC "leans" on candidates etc as does the RNC. Every election it happens. Terry McAuliffe once screamed at Howard Dean in 2004 when Dean was threatening to do a Bernie before Bernie even thought of it, and stay in to the bitter end and weaken Kerry.

Bloomberg's entire strategy was based on using Super Tuesday as a slingshot. He no longer has a viable path forwards and it makes total and complete sense that he drops out now.

I have previously felt that there was a viable independent path for Bloomberg, but only really if Sanders is the nominee, that path also crumbles if it is Biden.

I also previously pegged Bernie as "Mr 29%," maybe that was too generous?

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I do not because, short of an economic disaster between now and November, Trump is going to win.

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Oh. Okay. So how exactly are they "making it happen" if it's already predestined by the Gods and fate or the Magic 8 Ball Ouija Board or whatever.

Since you can predict this sort of thing, and Bernie could still win the nomination, what will happen if it's Bernie v Trump?

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- The DNC would prefer Trump to Sanders as President.
- At this stage Trump will almost certainly win a second term regardless of the Democratic Party candidate.

These are not mutually exclusive statements. I think Sanders would have a better chance than Biden but it's overwhemingly Trump's election to lose.

Trump is pretty much unassailable at this point. Had the DNC not chopped his legs out from under him and there had been a straight fight in 2016 between Sanders and Trump then I think Sanders may very well have won.

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How so?

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Those particular statements are not mutually exclusive but that's not what you said up-thread.

Not sure why the need for wordplay. I'd like to have a normal conversation about who's more likely to win and why --- without it always having to devolve into unsubstantiated conspiracy theories. The DNC is not a person therefore it cannot take on human characteristics. The DNC is a shit-show full of crooked, lazy, incompetent has-beens of proportions the likes of which are only slightly outdone by the RNC. If you want to spill some tea and name some names then, please do. Which person (or persons) within the DNC said they prefer Trump over Sanders?

You're not even willing to say that Bernie can beat Trump. So, at this point, I'm not even sure what exactly it is that you are saying or why. I do recognize it as exactly the same stuff that Trump has been saying all day and it's just as convoluted coming from him.



That's your opinion and I might even agree with some of it but it is an unknowable thing because Bernie didn't run against Trump in 2016 and it isn't 2016 anymore anyway.