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Anian Feb 6th 2020 8:24 am

Re: 2020 Election
 

Originally Posted by Hiro11 (Post 12802887)
Iowa goes first due to an Iowa state law, not due to Democrats' choice.

Any other state Democrat caucus could bring theirs forward to at least match it.

scrubbedexpat099 Feb 6th 2020 8:28 am

Re: 2020 Election
 
Guardian are reporting counting errors in Iowa.

zargof Feb 6th 2020 8:31 am

Re: 2020 Election
 

Originally Posted by Boiler (Post 12803004)
Guardian are reporting counting errors in Iowa.

Mayo Pete called the manager because it looks like Bernie is going to win.

Giantaxe Feb 6th 2020 8:33 am

Re: 2020 Election
 

Originally Posted by Boiler (Post 12803004)
Guardian are reporting counting errors in Iowa.

I'd say the chances of the whole thing being declared null and void are quite high. What a spectacular own goal by the Democrats.

scrubbedexpat091 Feb 6th 2020 9:57 am

Re: 2020 Election
 
Why cant Iowa just do a regular election? Why this caucus mumbo jumbo?


robin1234 Feb 6th 2020 10:09 am

Re: 2020 Election
 

Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12803036)
Why cant Iowa just do a regular election? Why this caucus mumbo jumbo?

I’m pretty sure that question is asked every four years.. In fact, wasn’t there some big controversy about the Iowa Republican caucus in 2012?

BenK91 Feb 6th 2020 10:21 am

Re: 2020 Election
 

Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12803036)
Why cant Iowa just do a regular election? Why this caucus mumbo jumbo?

Because Iowa is a nothing state and they want to feel special?

kimilseung Feb 6th 2020 10:32 am

Re: 2020 Election
 

Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12803036)
Why cant Iowa just do a regular election? Why this caucus mumbo jumbo?

Intuitively I prefer a caucus, more debate and more likelihood of committed peoples involvement being a greater proportion than casual observers; though I have zero knowledge whether the outcomes are different.

Hiro11 Feb 6th 2020 11:40 pm

Re: 2020 Election
 

Originally Posted by Anian (Post 12803002)
Any other state Democrat caucus could bring theirs forward to at least match it.

By state law, Iowa would then have to move theirs. The law is that they go first, period.

Hiro11 Feb 6th 2020 11:52 pm

Re: 2020 Election
 

Originally Posted by BenK91 (Post 12803045)
Because Iowa is a nothing state and they want to feel special?

Setting aside the caucus, I disagree. I'll also bet you've never been there. I live next door. Iowa's actually a pretty great place if you like peace and quiet and farms. It's beautiful, has a surprisingly dynamic economy, is very safe and has one of the best education systems in the country. A quick Google reveals that US News rated it #1 out of all 50 states in 2018 in their annual "Best States" ranking.

Lion in Winter Feb 7th 2020 12:30 am

Re: 2020 Election
 

Originally Posted by BenK91 (Post 12803045)
Because Iowa is a nothing state and they want to feel special?


It's home to over 3 million people.

That is never "nothing."

BritInParis Feb 7th 2020 12:58 am

Re: 2020 Election
 
I’d be interested to know how much the election bandwagon adds to the state economy every four years relative to the national average.

scrubbedexpat099 Feb 7th 2020 1:11 am

Re: 2020 Election
 
NYT which I think could be described as friendly, has an in depth story on the Iowa results and their inaccuracies. Bernie seems to have given Iowa up as a bad job and moved on.

Giantaxe Feb 7th 2020 2:57 am

Re: 2020 Election
 

Originally Posted by Boiler (Post 12803296)
NYT which I think could be described as friendly, has an in depth story on the Iowa results and their inaccuracies. Bernie seems to have given Iowa up as a bad job and moved on.

... after declaring victory based on the popular vote which, like the actual election, counts for nothing. The irony. Looks like he and Buttigieg will end up with the same number of delegates unless the whole thing gets thrown out. Which is quite likely. Really the only result of Iowa is that it may hasten Biden’s decline.

zargof Feb 7th 2020 3:09 am

Re: 2020 Election
 

Originally Posted by Giantaxe (Post 12803365)
... after declaring victory based on the popular vote which, like the actual election, counts for nothing. The irony. Looks like he and Buttigieg will end up with the same number of delegates unless the whole thing gets thrown out. Which is quite likely. Really the only result of Iowa is that it may hasten Biden’s decline.

It's not really surprising considering the media narrative about Iowa is more important than the actual results. Plus if they ever correct the errors in the count it will likely show Sanders won on every metric. I mean it's not like Sanders declared victory before any results were actually known. That would just be tacky.


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