Watching Trump make his acceptance speech now. Sigh.

I guess it's time to revisit all those thoughts way back, when trying to be positive about Trump ...
1) he's not a religious nut job
2) he's a pragmatic businessman
3) ... I'm sure there's more but they aren't coming to me now ...

Off to bed ...

Kasich, Bush and Rubio might all have won. Cruz could have gone either way.

Sanders might have pulled in a lot of grassroots support, and probably won the popular vote but the electoral college would have been hard to call.

You say that as if Trump isn't a scrotum with a face.

I think I can make an educated guess there ...

Guess he doesn't think there is massive fraud now that he has won.

Bearing in mind Trump won...any of the candidates could have won. In fact I'm pretty sure even my small dog could have won.

Very true...regarding the face.

My crystal ball appears to be broken...so I will pass.

Reread your post - you said 2012

You'd need a mirror (to look over your shoulder), not a crystal ball.

I admit my crystal ball was broken.

Global Markets Plummet as Trump Claims Victory

Y'know my lovely cyber chap. Believe it or not. I watched this unfold and I thought of you. Seriously.

Like this...

I've been retired three years. My wife and I have significant balances in 457 and 403b accounts. Early days yet, but it is probable the book value (not sure of the correct term) of our accounts will go down by hundreds of thousands over the next few days or weeks.

But so what? First, as Pulaski mentions, it should create a buying opportunity for the portion of the accounts in cash or other cash-like funds. Presumably no sensible person at or near retirement keeps all their retirement savings in equity funds!

Secondly, the IRS is pretty generous about when you have to take income from retirement funds. Required minimum distribution starts at age 70, and the first year's RMD is set at about 3%. I'm 66, so who knows how many ups and downs will occur in markets over the next few years.

He's already sounding a more conciliatory note, perhaps he actually will be better than the campaign suggests.

Even so, kiss goodbye to Obamacare and Roe v Wade.

I posted this on 1 Oct 2016 in one of the Canadian threads about Trump becoming President.

Sure I will bite and set myself up for ridicule. Why not Trump?
When he announced he was running many gave him no chance of even being electable or becoming the Republican nominee yet here we are just under 2 months away from the vote. He is their Presidential candidate so how do those who gave him no chance feel now?

This is the USA we are talking about so any rational debate on a whole raft of subjects goes out of the window. A population of 350 million plus and they have an electoral system that basically has 2 parties Democrats & Republicans and you pick one. Yes there are the Independents and Libertarian parties who can take votes away from the big 2 but when was the last time they won the White House?

Just sit back and think how many average voters and non voters despise politicians? Who on here will display their love for Harper, Kathleen Wynne, Christy Clark, Maggie Thatcher, Jeremy Corbyn, George W Bush etc etc.
Justin Trudeau became PM with a majority but only received 39.5% of the vote.
Think about it 60% DID NOT vote for him or his party.

Why is the average voter pissed off at times is it because they have been lied to for so many years that voter apathy sets in or they just don't trust politicians of all stripes?

Trump has never been a career politician as such. so is not seen by many as part of the Establishment that produces career politicians. Trump says what he wants be it right or wrong and is kissing no ones ass to get elected. Yes he has made some outrageous statements some obviously a lie but he has also not been politically correct either and you know what some people like that approach.

Is he wrong for saying Lets Make America Great Again? Is he wrong in saying we need to do something about illegal immigration? Is he wrong in saying we need to protect American jobs and stop them being taken away. Is he wrong in saying we need to stop ISIS? The list goes on and guess what some of those American voters agree with him.

Now how he attempts achieves the above would be interesting if he ever became the President but as you say
Seriously are the Americans that dumb enough to vote him in as President?

There is that little part inside me that wants Trump to win to see the worlds reaction and the absolute pandemonium that follows

So Why not Trump

So, this went well then.

Yes, the country distinguished itself again.