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Old Oct 27th 2016 | 3:02 am
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Originally Posted by Steerpike
What are the chances of Clinton overturning / modifying Citizens United? How much can the president do to force a re-visit on that one? If SCOTUS balance changes, would this be a done deal?
Two things need to happen.

1) the Senate has to approve her scotus nomination

2) a case has to make its way through the courts and get permission to be heard by the sc.
 
Old Oct 27th 2016 | 3:24 am
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Originally Posted by sir_eccles
Two things need to happen.

1) the Senate has to approve her scotus nomination

2) a case has to make its way through the courts and get permission to be heard by the sc.
Or there is the option of a Constitutional amendment, which considering it needs at least three quarters of the states to ratify is even more unlikely.
 
Old Oct 27th 2016 | 4:00 am
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[QUOTE=dc koop;12087681]
Originally Posted by sir_eccles
Trump's understanding of international affairs such as the middle east is simplistic at best. At worst one could easily see him causing all sorts of trouble. The middle east has been a mess for thousands of years many people have tried to fix it, many have failed. At least Hillary has a working relationship with many of the players.[/QUOTE


Trump has declared on several occasions that the agreement with Iran was a big mistake. I could see him getting into a conflict with Iran and Russia getting involved on Iran's side.

We do seem to be gearing up for war also. NATO is undergoing it's biggest build up since the end of the cold war and Russia the same and with it's eyes on the Baltic States
I did read something yesterday and then looked at the forces sent, tokenistic at best.

We will never know what Trump would do, my guess he will see it as a deal and there is nothing worth getting upset about, Hillary is another matter.
 
Old Oct 27th 2016 | 4:18 am
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Originally Posted by Gordon Barlow
Saudi Arabia Remains Hopeful of Clinton Victory — Rogue Money
This article contains an interesting (partial?) list of nations that have paid money to the Clinton Foundation - much/most of which has reportedly been paid over to Hillary - presumably to enable her to become President. Which is why my money is on her to win the Office. This is one ruthless female, so I'm quite sure the Saudis will be allowed to keep slaughtering Yemeni civilians. Oh well, that's the way things work, I guess...
Reported by whom, please? We know, of course, that the Trump Foundation has been used as a self-dealing fund of questionable legality by The Donald, but there's plenty of evidence (including many years of financial statements) that the Clinton Foundation's money goes to actual charitable works and that none of the Clintons take a financial benefit from it.

As well as which, it's worth pointing out that Mr Trump has been called out several times (by Members of Parliament in the UK, among others) for his campaign's continued soliciting of foreign funds, which is against American electoral laws. I don't believe anybody has extended these same accusations against Mrs Clinton's campaign: I'd love to see a responsible source for the bizarre allegation in this article that the Saudis have contributed 20% of Clinton's election funding.
 
Old Oct 27th 2016 | 4:26 am
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The big difference is Hillary is likely to win, Donald to lose, so his misdeeds are somewhat irrelevant.
 
Old Oct 27th 2016 | 5:11 am
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Reported by whom, please? We know, of course, that the Trump Foundation has been used as a self-dealing fund of questionable legality by The Donald, but there's plenty of evidence (including many years of financial statements) that the Clinton Foundation's money goes to actual charitable works and that none of the Clintons take a financial benefit from it.

As well as which, it's worth pointing out that Mr Trump has been called out several times (by Members of Parliament in the UK, among others) for his campaign's continued soliciting of foreign funds, which is against American electoral laws. I don't believe anybody has extended these same accusations against Mrs Clinton's campaign: I'd love to see a responsible source for the bizarre allegation in this article that the Saudis have contributed 20% of Clinton's election funding.
There are questions regarding the Clinton Foundation...
Clinton Foundation Investigation Update: Key Details About Financial And Political Dealings

But yes, Trump's scampaign is far worse. This is latest and it's a doozy.
Exclusive investigation: Donald Trump faces foreign donor fundraising scandal
 
Old Oct 27th 2016 | 7:45 am
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Old Oct 27th 2016 | 8:18 am
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You really think she is more of an embarrassment to the US then Trump is? Come on, man!
 
Old Oct 27th 2016 | 8:20 am
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You really think she is more of an embarrassment to the US then Trump is? Come on, man!
Huh
 
Old Oct 27th 2016 | 8:21 am
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You really think she is more of an embarrassment to the US then Trump is? Come on, man!
There's delusion and then there's psychosis.
 
Old Oct 27th 2016 | 8:31 am
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Originally Posted by dc koop

I did read something yesterday and then looked at the forces sent, tokenistic at best.

We will never know what Trump would do, my guess he will see it as a deal and there is nothing worth getting upset about, Hillary is another matter.
I see Trump as an amateur in the big game of world politics being bamboozled by the likes of Netanyahu and Putin into getting America involved in situations where this country's security and standing in the world will be damaged for decades afterwards.

Netanyahu's trigger finger is itching to bomb the crap out of Iran's nuclear facilities. So far he's been restrained and warned off by Obama but Trump's hot headed personality and bad judgmental decisions might be a tool that the Israeli leader could well use to his advantage.

Putin could also exploit Trump's amateur standing by driving a wedge between the US and NATO if he played his cards right.

All Trump would be is a ba ba sheep with a big blustery mouth surrounded by a pack of wolves, the Russians, Chinese and North Koreans

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Old Oct 27th 2016 | 8:37 am
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Originally Posted by Boiler

I see Trump as an amateur in the big game of world politics being bamboozled by the likes of Netanyahu and Putin into getting America involved in situations where this country's security and standing in the world will be damaged for decades afterwards.

Netanyahu's trigger finger is itching to bomb the crap out of Iran's nuclear facilities. So far he's been restrained and warned off by Obama but Trump's hot headed personality and bad judgmental decisions might be a tool that the Israeli leader could well use to his advantage.

Putin could also exploit Trump's amateur standing by driving a wedge between the US and NATO if he played his cards right.

All Trump would be is a ba ba sheep with a big blustery mouth surrounded by a pack of wolves, the Russians, Chinese and North Koreans
Somewhat insulting to amateurs, but I generally agree.
 
Old Oct 27th 2016 | 9:31 am
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Hillary Clinton's staff helped Chelsea when she begged to get visa help for friend | Daily Mail Online

I know it is the DM, but seems that Chelsea used her Mother to try and get a B1 application refusal reversed for a friend. Not sure how it panned out.
 
Old Oct 27th 2016 | 10:55 am
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Hillary Clinton's staff helped Chelsea when she begged to get visa help for friend | Daily Mail Online

I know it is the DM, but seems that Chelsea used her Mother to try and get a B1 application refusal reversed for a friend. Not sure how it panned out.
Hardly earthshaking nor of any concern.
 
Old Oct 27th 2016 | 11:00 am
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Hillary Clinton's staff helped Chelsea when she begged to get visa help for friend | Daily Mail Online

I know it is the DM, but seems that Chelsea used her Mother to try and get a B1 application refusal reversed for a friend. Not sure how it panned out.
FFS

1. Begging??? Where?
2. Since when is it a scandal that somebody asks a politician for help with immigration problems?
3. You pretend to have "real" issues with Clinton yet this is the crap you post?
4. Stupid.
 


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