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dakota44 Oct 10th 2016 12:34 pm

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by Boiler (Post 12073200)
Odd comment to make about victims of sexual abuse.

I find it odd that they would be there in support of a man who has openly exressed his sexist attitude toward women and who has been, probably fairly, accused of sexual assault and worse.

scrubbedexpat099 Oct 10th 2016 12:34 pm

Re: 2016 Election
 
I expected you to be more supportive, especially bearing in mind our comments this morning.

Leslie Oct 10th 2016 12:53 pm

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by Boiler (Post 12073205)
I expected you to be more supportive, especially bearing in mind our comments this morning.

I'm going to spell this out for you because I think you're trying to put words in my mouth. I know you're still butt-hurt with me but that doesn't mean I will accept this.

Victims of sexual assault and/or rape are often re-victimized throughout their lives. Many tend to fall for the same type of men, over and over again. Men who flatter and pay attention to them in the beginning and then lay them to waste once they have gained their trust. None of this is the fault of the victim.

Other women, often who were empowered in their childhood and upbringing, become fierce survivors and strong advocates for themselves. The lucky ones can break the cycle but it isn't ever easy for them, nor is any of it their fault.

Did you notice who wasn't there last night? Hmmmm .... I wonder who it could be??!! :confused: I guess Steve Bannon just completely forgot to call Monica Lewinsky and invite her to this parade of grotesqueries. Monica Lewinsky, the holy grail. How odd. Or maybe not. Maybe Monica learned to recognize predators and saw Mr. Trump and Mr. Bannon for exactly what they were ... because she had seen it before. That's self preservation.

Trump doesn't care about these women. He will not be returning their phone calls. He gleefully seduced them and used them and he will now chew them up and spit them out.

moneypenny20 Oct 10th 2016 1:20 pm

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by Leslie (Post 12073212)
I'm going to spell this out for you because I think you're trying to put words in my mouth. I know you're still butt-hurt with me but that doesn't mean I will accept this.

Victims of sexual assault and/or rape are often re-victimized throughout their lives. Many tend to fall for the same type of men, over and over again. Men who flatter and pay attention to them in the beginning and then lay them to waste once they have gained their trust. None of this is the fault of the victim.

Other women, often who were empowered in their childhood and upbringing, become fierce survivors and strong advocates for themselves. The lucky ones can break the cycle but it isn't ever easy for them, nor is any of it their fault.

Did you notice who wasn't there last night? Hmmmm .... I wonder who it could be??!! :confused: I guess Steve Bannon just completely forgot to call Monica Lewinsky and invite her to this parade of grotesqueries. Monica Lewinsky, the holy grail. How odd. Or maybe not. Maybe Monica learned to recognize predators and saw Mr. Trump and Mr. Bannon for exactly what they were ... because she had seen it before. That's self preservation.

Trump doesn't care about these women. He will not be returning their phone calls. He gleefully seduced them and used them and he will now chew them up and spit them out.

And apart from all that, what is the relevance? Bill's not running. Hillary is. Now if she'd raped and sexually abused people there might, I repeat might, be a case for Trump to have dragged them along and prostituted them for his own amusement but it would still be abuse all over again.

Leslie Oct 10th 2016 1:34 pm

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by moneypenny20 (Post 12073221)
And apart from all that, what is the relevance? Bill's not running. Hillary is. Now if she'd raped and sexually abused people there might, I repeat might, be a case for Trump to have dragged them along and prostituted them for his own amusement but it would still be abuse all over again.

There is no relevance. It is a side-show and a circus. He has to do this because he knows absolutely nothing about anything to do with running this country. Smoke and mirrors.

dakota44 Oct 10th 2016 1:41 pm

Re: 2016 Election
 
This is typical Trump.....announces that if there any more leaks about him..he will attack Bill. Class.

Trump promises more attacks against Clintons - CNNPolitics.com

dc koop Oct 10th 2016 5:30 pm

Re: 2016 Election
 
Gary Johnson has his name tattooed on his left lower arm just in case he cant remember it

dc koop Oct 10th 2016 5:41 pm

Re: 2016 Election
 
So Anderson Cooper addresses Trump about the vagina groping and Trump right away switches to ISIS beheading people. ISIS leader Baghdadi isn't running for President of the US though. What a stupid clumsy way to deflect from the issue
I think there must be millions of Americans who went to bed after that debate feeling deeply ashamed of what things have come down to

moneypenny20 Oct 10th 2016 7:07 pm

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by dc koop (Post 12073338)
So Anderson Cooper addresses Trump about the vagina groping and Trump right away switches to ISIS beheading people. ISIS leader Baghdadi isn't running for President of the US though. What a stupid clumsy way to deflect from the issue
I think there must be millions of Americans who went to bed after that debate feeling deeply ashamed of what things have come down to


Didn't watch so did Cooper push the issue after Trump finished or let it drop? If people actually pushed Trump on his shit, he's have been gone months ago.

Philk Oct 11th 2016 1:02 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by moneypenny20 (Post 12073393)
Didn't watch so did Cooper push the issue after Trump finished or let it drop? If people actually pushed Trump on his shit, he's have been gone months ago.

Trump supporters piled on Cooper after his minor push

Problem is, if the debate moderators ask Trump to stay on topic or stop lying then the entire debate would be 90 minutes of this
Maybe they should abandon the 3rd debate, they seem pointless

SultanOfSwing Oct 11th 2016 1:46 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by Boiler (Post 12073156)
Another truck load of wood, have I missed anything?

No sheep around here btw.

All that wood and no sheep. Must have been torture for you.

Anian Oct 11th 2016 2:02 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing (Post 12073694)
All that wood and no sheep. Must have been torture for you.

Settlers of Catan is a hell of a game.

scrubbedexpat099 Oct 11th 2016 2:05 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

SultanOfSwing Oct 11th 2016 2:09 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by Anian (Post 12073710)
Settlers of Catan is a hell of a game.

That was an unintentional reference, but yes it is pretty good :D

sir_eccles Oct 11th 2016 4:39 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by dc koop (Post 12073338)
So Anderson Cooper addresses Trump about the vagina groping and Trump right away switches to ISIS beheading people. ISIS leader Baghdadi isn't running for President of the US though. What a stupid clumsy way to deflect from the issue
I think there must be millions of Americans who went to bed after that debate feeling deeply ashamed of what things have come down to

Deflection can be a very effective technique when done properly. This however was clumsy. My wife is in pr and has done media training. She did speculate that the campaign brought in some top NYC maven (possibly even someone she knew) to try to train him though by all accounts he is untrainable. She hoped they had an ironclad contract and a huge fee paid upfront in cash.


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