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Old May 18th 2016 | 6:38 am
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States have had that authority since 1787.
Yes they have..and it has never made sense.
 
Old May 18th 2016 | 6:43 am
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Originally Posted by zargof
In other news, Trump is demanding that VP hopefuls hand over their tax returns to the campaign.

I'll let you add your own comments about irony.
That could likely rub any potentials the wrong way. I am still wondering what desperate for attention politician would want to hitch their wagon to that idiot.
 
Old May 18th 2016 | 7:44 am
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Originally Posted by dakota44
Sanders cries corruption without proof. As for the violence...
I've already provided links in this thread to the proof.
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Without evidence? There was plenty of evidence.
Really? Where?
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Face the truth...Sanders has only run for office in Vermont..without the need to run in a primary. This whole national thing was foreign to him. He never had to deal with 50 different sets of rules for delegate distribution or voter registration requirements. So he does not like it when he bumps up against the same rules candidates had to live by in previous elections and they do not work in his favor. Sadly his current determination to disrupt the convention if he does not get his way is going to seriously damage the party. Two political parties in self destruct mode because of two candidates with arrogant attitudes..one not even a Democrat and the other not really a Republican. The whole thing is nuts.
I'm not going to say his campaign has been well run, it hasn't. He has been far more successful than even he thought he ever would be and his campaign wasn't prepared for that. But that doesn't mean he's not entitled to point out the flaws in the system.

As for the rest, well maybe the self destruction is a good thing, because I don't know if you've noticed, but the status quo isn't working out too well for the majority of people.
 
Old May 18th 2016 | 8:24 am
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Originally Posted by zargof
I've already provided links in this thread to the proof.

Really? Where?

I'm not going to say his campaign has been well run, it hasn't. He has been far more successful than even he thought he ever would be and his campaign wasn't prepared for that. But that doesn't mean he's not entitled to point out the flaws in the system.

As for the rest, well maybe the self destruction is a good thing, because I don't know if you've noticed, but the status quo isn't working out too well for the majority of people.
Chaos erupts at NV Democratic convention amid tensions between Clinton and Sanders supporters

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Old May 18th 2016 | 9:34 am
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Does seem that the Dems are imploding.
 
Old May 18th 2016 | 11:01 am
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Didn't see any violence there. One video showed someone shouting and being pulled away. The others were unrelated and showed when someone had some sort of medical issue, even the WaPo says as much.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...ion/?tid=a_inl
 
Old May 18th 2016 | 1:48 pm
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This is the most fascinating election in the history of forever. If it weren't for the fact of Donald Trump potentially driving this country into the ditch, I would really be enjoying the show.
 
Old May 18th 2016 | 4:19 pm
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So the latest polls say that if Hillary and Trump get to face off the result would be too close to call. On the other hand if Sanders and Trump get to face off Sanders would beat Trump.

So Sanders becomes President and Sanders has to work with Paul Ryan, poles apart in just about everything imaginable.

If you think gridlock has plagued Washington for the past 7-1/2 years you aint seen nothing yet.

Then of course if Trump did beat Sanders then we're all really screwed

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Old May 19th 2016 | 5:48 am
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If you believe The Daily Caller, the Kochs are going to put their money behind the Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson. That could make things interesting.

David Koch Pledges Millions To Gary Johnson Campaign | The Daily Caller
 
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Any Libertarian party candidate has about as much chance of winning as the Flat Earth Society.

Rand Paul and his dad, long time Libertarians knew this and ran as Republicans
 
Old May 19th 2016 | 6:50 am
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Any Libertarian party candidate has about as much chance of winning as the Flat Earth Society.

Rand Paul and his dad, long time Libertarians knew this and ran as Republicans
Oh, I don't think he'd win. But with a decent chunk of cash and as an alternative to Trump he could get a decent number of votes.
 
Old May 19th 2016 | 7:13 am
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Oh, I don't think he'd win. But with a decent chunk of cash and as an alternative to Trump he could get a decent number of votes.
Do as they may but there is no chance of stopping Trump getting the nomination. He has multi millions of supporters. Any efforts to deny him that would only be seen as interfering in the democratic process. Like it or not the GOP are stuck with him. The only thing that would knock him
down between now and November is if some great big scandal involving himself should occur.

If Hillary weren't such a mediocre candidate she would be way ahead of him in the opinion polls. The man is a disgrace, racist, woman hater and even if a smart businessman totally ignorant of national economies and foreign policy. The ignorance of the latter is astounding. How would he ever expect to defeat ISIS for example if he makes it his business to turn the whole Arab world against him by his policy towards Muslim immigrants?

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Old May 19th 2016 | 9:50 am
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"A delegate for Donald Trump was indicted Wednesday in Maryland for illegal transport of explosives, illegal possession of a machine gun, and child pornography offenses. According to the U.S. Department of Justice, Caleb Andrew Bailey, 30, attempted to illegally ship weapons to an unidentified man in Wisconsin; and that between March 2015 to January 2016, he used a minor to produce child pornography. Bailey faces a maximum of 10 years for the explosives and firearm, and 30 years for the child porn. ABC7 News reports that Bailey acts as a delegate for Trump in Charles County."
 
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"A delegate for Donald Trump was indicted Wednesday in Maryland for illegal transport of explosives, illegal possession of a machine gun, and child pornography offenses. According to the U.S. Department of Justice, Caleb Andrew Bailey, 30, attempted to illegally ship weapons to an unidentified man in Wisconsin; and that between March 2015 to January 2016, he used a minor to produce child pornography. Bailey faces a maximum of 10 years for the explosives and firearm, and 30 years for the child porn. ABC7 News reports that Bailey acts as a delegate for Trump in Charles County."
So what you are saying is that essentially by extension, all Trump delegates are probably criminals? Or am I misreading that?
 
Old May 19th 2016 | 12:03 pm
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Originally Posted by dc koop
Do as they may but there is no chance of stopping Trump getting the nomination. He has multi millions of supporters. Any efforts to deny him that would only be seen as interfering in the democratic process. Like it or not the GOP are stuck with him. The only thing that would knock him
down between now and November is if some great big scandal involving himself should occur.

If Hillary weren't such a mediocre candidate she would be way ahead of him in the opinion polls. The man is a disgrace, racist, woman hater and even if a smart businessman totally ignorant of national economies and foreign policy. The ignorance of the latter is astounding. How would he ever expect to defeat ISIS for example if he makes it his business to turn the whole Arab world against him by his policy towards Muslim immigrants?
The GOP may be stuck with him, but giving Republican voters another option will lessen Trumps chances in the General Election. Just as Nader opened the door for GWB. Hillary is not a done deal, I suspect many Democratic voter may not show up for the election. I'm very conflicted myself, in the end I shall probably hold my nose and vote for Clinton.
 


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