2016 Election
#4667
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#4668
Re: 2016 Election
He lays out the details on his campaign site. Yes, there will be some tax increases but in reality, a lot of it will also be redistributing existing taxes. A great many articles I have read seem to indicate the the single payer healthcare plan would end up saving both us, and our employers money compared to the ACA as it stands now. Also, he's not going to be initiating these overnight, it will be a process over years as the revenue is redistributed.
At least, for now anyway, he's the only one talking about ideas that will make the situation in America better for everyone. Even if this is all for naught (and I hope it isn't), surely he's at the very least sown the seeds for some positive changes down the line.
At least, for now anyway, he's the only one talking about ideas that will make the situation in America better for everyone. Even if this is all for naught (and I hope it isn't), surely he's at the very least sown the seeds for some positive changes down the line.
On the education front - is he proposing free education for all courses / subjects / vocations? That is - a student could study 'history of art' for 4 years and have that paid for? I know that in some circles that is supported due to the 'benefits to society' of allowing people to study non-vocational subjects, but I think it would be more likely to fly in the US if they would say courses like engineering would be free.
#4669
Re: 2016 Election
Obama originally wanted ACA to be single payer but had no chance, in the administration's view, of getting that through, and so removed the single payer aspect. How do you imagine Sanders will get his plan approved, realistically, given the intense opposition that the current ACA faced?
On the education front - is he proposing free education for all courses / subjects / vocations? That is - a student could study 'history of art' for 4 years and have that paid for? I know that in some circles that is supported due to the 'benefits to society' of allowing people to study non-vocational subjects, but I think it would be more likely to fly in the US if they would say courses like engineering would be free.
On the education front - is he proposing free education for all courses / subjects / vocations? That is - a student could study 'history of art' for 4 years and have that paid for? I know that in some circles that is supported due to the 'benefits to society' of allowing people to study non-vocational subjects, but I think it would be more likely to fly in the US if they would say courses like engineering would be free.
#4670
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Joined: Feb 2009
Location: Fox Lake, IL (from Carrickfergus NI)
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Re: 2016 Election
Obama originally wanted ACA to be single payer but had no chance, in the administration's view, of getting that through, and so removed the single payer aspect. How do you imagine Sanders will get his plan approved, realistically, given the intense opposition that the current ACA faced?
The fact is, single payer is the only solution, otherwise ACA or not, people are going to continue going into debt trying to pay their medical bills.
On the education front - is he proposing free education for all courses / subjects / vocations? That is - a student could study 'history of art' for 4 years and have that paid for? I know that in some circles that is supported due to the 'benefits to society' of allowing people to study non-vocational subjects, but I think it would be more likely to fly in the US if they would say courses like engineering would be free.
Again, it comes down to distribution. There is, as Boiler said, plenty of money floating around. Maybe Bernie is only a starting point, maybe he won't win but he has put forth these ideas and they won't be forgotten. Not by my generation and certainly not by that of my children. It might not be the president of 2016 or even 2020 that implements real and useful change, but I certainly hope it happens in my lifetime. Trump likes to wax lyrical about 'making America great'. Bernie Sanders is the only politician in the race who has policies that can actually achieve that. That's why I will be voting for him in the primary, whatever may happen after that.
#4671
Re: 2016 Election
Obama originally wanted ACA to be single payer but had no chance, in the administration's view, of getting that through, and so removed the single payer aspect. How do you imagine Sanders will get his plan approved, realistically, given the intense opposition that the current ACA faced?
Dirty little secret: Insurers actually are making a mint from Obamacare - LA Times
I could see a gradual expansion upwards of medicaid perhaps?
#4672
Re: 2016 Election
He's a latin american priest, and despite the church's very reactionary views on some things, in many cases the priests there have been in the forefront of the battles against a long series of right wing and military dictatorships (many put in place and supported by the US) and for human, civil and social rights . In many cases priests risked and lost their lives in this work. It's not at all surprising to me that this one would speak up. And while I don't want religion in government, this kind of activism by priests is about the most (only?) useful thing they do.
#4674
Re: 2016 Election
He's a latin american priest, and despite the church's very reactionary views on some things, in many cases the priests there have been in the forefront of the battles against a long series of right wing and military dictatorships (many put in place and supported by the US) and for human, civil and social rights . In many cases priests risked and lost their lives in this work. It's not at all surprising to me that this one would speak up. And while I don't want religion in government, this kind of activism by priests is about the most (only?) useful thing they do.
Serious question: should the Pope level the playing field and give us an assessment on the efficacy of each of the candidates Christian faith?
#4675
Re: 2016 Election
Their major issue with Catholicism being there is but one intercessor between God and mankind - Jesus Christ. The existence of an alternative 'head of church' doesn't quite fit into that equation.
Most evangelicals are somewhat suspicious of the Catholic Church. If anything, Donald might have won a few of them over.
#4676
Re: 2016 Election
You raise an interesting point, and one I am inclined to agree with; many might argue that interference from religious leaders over the years has caused harm as well.
Serious question: should the Pope level the playing field and give us an assessment on the efficacy of each of the candidates Christian faith?
Serious question: should the Pope level the playing field and give us an assessment on the efficacy of each of the candidates Christian faith?
#4677
Re: 2016 Election
Anyone care to offer an explanation as to why Trump is scoring big with Evangelicals? This, to me, is utter craziness.
Trump back on top in national poll - POLITICO
Quote: "Trump leads among all demographic groups, including men, women, white evangelicals, moderates and those describing themselves as somewhat conservative. Among those describing themselves as very conservative, Trump holds a 5-point lead on Cruz ... "
He says many things to win support from many groups, but I can't imagine what evangelicals could read into his ramblings that would cause them to support him over the likes of Cruz or Rubio, who sound like they are preachers on stage.
This could set an interesting historic precedent; conventional wisdom has always been that a Republican candidate has to veer far right to capture the nomination, but here we see Trump not doing this at all. Very odd.
Trump back on top in national poll - POLITICO
Quote: "Trump leads among all demographic groups, including men, women, white evangelicals, moderates and those describing themselves as somewhat conservative. Among those describing themselves as very conservative, Trump holds a 5-point lead on Cruz ... "
He says many things to win support from many groups, but I can't imagine what evangelicals could read into his ramblings that would cause them to support him over the likes of Cruz or Rubio, who sound like they are preachers on stage.
This could set an interesting historic precedent; conventional wisdom has always been that a Republican candidate has to veer far right to capture the nomination, but here we see Trump not doing this at all. Very odd.
#4678
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Joined: Oct 2005
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Re: 2016 Election
To understand social conservatism among whites, you have to realize that it's ultimately an ethnic identity movement.
There are quite a few Hispanic and black social conservatives, but they tend not to align with the GOP because they realize that the social conservatives don't just favor prayer in school and abortion restrictions, but that they also want Jim Crow. They aren't natural allies in spite of some shared values.
#4679
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Joined: Mar 2004
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Re: 2016 Election
Hillary thinks O Care is wonderful, she has been bought and paid, nothings changing.