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Shard Jan 20th 2016 2:27 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing (Post 11843154)
The standard Dylan smirk. He was singing, so was I, I was right up front and he looked at me for a second, then went on with the song. It's my favourite of his, so it always kind of stuck out for me.

Maybe it was just the reflection from the top of your head that blinded him. ;)

SultanOfSwing Jan 20th 2016 2:29 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by Shard (Post 11843161)
Freddy was good when I saw him (mid 80s) but he wasn't revered as a god back then. I think it was after Live Aid and his death that he became the legend he is now. Nevertheless , I've always been a devout worshiper.

Sounds like you saw the Works tour (84-85). I got into them properly in about 1990/91, so I didn't have too long before he died to get 'caught up' with their music, though I realised I knew a lot of the songs via osmosis from growing up in the '80s.


Originally Posted by Shard (Post 11843161)
Even some tribute acts can be amazing (after enough beers). Saw a Fleetwood Mac tribute a few years ago, and it was pretty much the real deal!

They can be great. I saw the Cavern Beatles once and they blew me away.


Originally Posted by Shard (Post 11843164)
Maybe it was just the reflection from the top of your head that blinded him. ;)

This was in 2001 - I had hair back then, if you can believe me :D

Mallory Jan 20th 2016 2:30 am

Re: 2016 Election
 
There is a statue of Freddie by the lake in Montreux Switzerland. Hubby took my pic standing beside the statue in 2014. You can't believe how many people that come along, every few minutes, to do the same. :star smile

SultanOfSwing Jan 20th 2016 2:34 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by Mallory (Post 11843168)
There is a statue of Freddy by the lake in Montreux Switzerland. Hubby took my pic standing beside the statue in 2014. You can't believe how many people that come along, every few minutes, to do the same. :starsmile:

Yep, it's on the album cover of 'Made In Heaven'. I'd believe it, lots of people trying to recreate that photo.

Giantaxe Jan 20th 2016 2:36 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing (Post 11843095)
I'm not sure if Bernie Sanders is an out and out socialist more than a social democrat. Even if he does gain the support of the majority of Democrats, the party is no more on the cusp of becoming a socialist party than Labour are. Socialism is just a pejorative term thrown around in the US to describe someone who supports egalitarianism and might want people to pay a little more tax. It's pathetic, really, the pure diet of fear upon which the American right lives.

Throwing labels like "socialist" around really is just being intellectually lazy and avoiding having to argue actual issues and solutions. There are many things to criticize Sanders policies for, but it's oh so easier to scream "socialist" at him.

RoadWarriorFromLP Jan 20th 2016 2:39 am

Re: 2016 Election
 
Socialists believe in nationalizing major industries.

As far as I can tell, Bernie Sanders doesn't want to nationalize any major industries.

Sanders is a populist social democrat, but his politics don't match any definition of socialism that one would find in a credible political science program.

SultanOfSwing Jan 20th 2016 2:40 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by Giantaxe (Post 11843175)
Throwing labels like "socialist" around really is just being intellectually lazy and avoiding having to argue actual issues and solutions. There are many things to criticize Sanders policies for, but it's oh so easier to scream "socialist" at him.

Agreed on the intellectual laziness.

Sanders is still the one candidate who checks most of my boxes in the race. If supporting him makes me a socialist, then I'd better go get my little red book :lol:

zargof Jan 20th 2016 2:52 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by RoadWarriorFromLP (Post 11843179)
Socialists believe in nationalizing major industries.

As far as I can tell, Bernie Sanders doesn't want to nationalize any major industries.

Sanders is a populist social democrat, but his politics don't match any definition of socialism that one would find in a credible political science program.

Speaking of socialism, I see Trump says he's force Apple to manufacture in the US. How is he going to do that? A government takeover of Apple? Sounds like communism to me.

zargof Jan 20th 2016 4:11 am

Re: 2016 Election
 
I see Hillary's email problems aren't going away. Ignoring the media's misunderstanding of clearance levels, why is any official sending SAP info via email? SIPRNET is only classified up to SECRET, never mind Clinton's dodgy server setup.

I know there are a lot of people on here who don't understand why this is an issue, but it seems may have been in violation of the same laws that she were used to prosecute Manning and what she wants to nail Snowden with. It also got Patreaus in trouble.

All the talk of nominating Sanders being a disaster for the Democrats because he's a socialist. It could be the case that nominating Clinton would be a disaster as it would be hard to serve as President from a jail cell.

Hillary Clinton emails held info beyond top secret: IG | MSNBC

scrubbedexpat099 Jan 20th 2016 4:18 am

Re: 2016 Election
 
Laws only apply to the little people.

SultanOfSwing Jan 20th 2016 4:19 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by Boiler (Post 11843262)
Laws only apply to the little people.

What's the cut off point? Everyone over 5'0 is safe?

dc koop Jan 20th 2016 4:22 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by FlaviusAetius (Post 11843085)
I watched most of Sarah Palin's speech in which she delivered her endorsement of Trump. It was painful to endure because of her high-pitched delivery. What she was actually saying was powerful red meat to those who feel alienated from the elites in the Republican party.

You elite posters are sneering non-stop at Republican populists, something you would never dream of doing to Sanders, who is a left-wing populist, pure and simple. How many of you here would acknowledge that Sanders really is a socialist as you all understand socialists? Am I wrong in thinking that you believe, as some have posted here, that the Democrat Party is actually to the right of the Tories? If so, and if Sanders is a socialist, with the support of nearly a majority of Democrats, is the party not on the cusp of being a socialist party?

Trump is appealing to many voters who see America as going in the wrong direction

Sanders is appealing to many voters who see America as going in the wrong direction

Both are advocates for change of a different kind

dc koop Jan 20th 2016 4:26 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by zargof (Post 11843253)
I see Hillary's email problems aren't going away. Ignoring the media's misunderstanding of clearance levels, why is any official sending SAP info via email? SIPRNET is only classified up to SECRET, never mind Clinton's dodgy server setup.

I know there are a lot of people on here who don't understand why this is an issue, but it seems may have been in violation of the same laws that she were used to prosecute Manning and what she wants to nail Snowden with. It also got Patreaus in trouble.

All the talk of nominating Sanders being a disaster for the Democrats because he's a socialist. It could be the case that nominating Clinton would be a disaster as it would be hard to serve as President from a jail cell.

Hillary Clinton emails held info beyond top secret: IG | MSNBC

Well if the Republicans want to nail Hilary why not nail George Bush for invading Iraq. We could throw in Tony Blair also Trial in the UK or extradite to the USA

username.exe Jan 20th 2016 4:27 am

Re: 2016 Election
 
[QUOTE=zargof;11843253]I see Hillary's email problems aren't going away. Ignoring the media's misunderstanding of clearance levels, why is any official sending SAP info via email? SIPRNET is only classified up to SECRET, never mind Clinton's dodgy server setup.

I know there are a lot of people on here who don't understand why this is an issue, but it seems may have been in violation of the same laws that she were used to prosecute Manning and what she wants to nail Snowden with. It also got Patreaus in trouble.

All the talk of nominating Sanders being a disaster for the Democrats because he's a socialist. It could be the case that nominating Clinton would be a disaster as it would be hard to serve as President from a jail cell.

Hillary Clinton emails held info beyond top secret: IG | MSNBC[/Qbridge,
These are some very good points.

Fit the main issue is that we know the rules are being applied inconsistently - if you're at the to you can get away with it. Look at Chris Christie and his escapade with the bridge for example.

Shard Jan 20th 2016 4:36 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing (Post 11843167)
Sounds like you saw the Works tour (84-85). I got into them properly in about 1990/91, so I didn't have too long before he died to get 'caught up' with their music, though I realised I knew a lot of the songs via osmosis from growing up in the '80s. me :D

Just had a look online, and pretty sure it was the Hot Spaces tour 1982. Dang ! I be old. :(

I still admire Queen as a band, but personally, I don't find they are standing the test of time the way some other bands do. Obviously Bohemian Rhapsody, We Will Rock You, and a few other songs are so classic that they will be around forever, but many other album tracks seem a bit old hat now.


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