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SultanOfSwing Oct 21st 2015 1:17 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by Leslie (Post 11776368)
Yeah, it's a made up drama. FWIW, I was the one who was attacked first. I was called lazy and then when I responded, I was called a lazy whiner. All this by somebody who was completely missing the point of my post and going down rabbit holes about people not wanting get ID ... which did not apply. Giantaxe pointed out some home truths and holes in his argument and got accused of triggering some sort of mental health episode. Then Smith goes on another forum and slags us off, claiming damages against us. Now over there in Canada, they're hurling insults about people who aren't bothering them in any way whatsoever. This is typical of people who pick fights over matters of which they are ill informed and then play the victim when they get their feet held to the fire. Whatever the "trigger" may have been ... he brought it in with him -- he didn't get it here.

Like I said, I just didn't get it. Someone says one thing, they happen to be wrong, someone else points that out, then they kick off. No harm to Mr Smith, since I wasn't personally involved in that but it was a hell of an overreaction. The whole 'triggered' thing is a bit of an internet meme these days, but is usually concerned with millennial SJWs who don't like free speech. JSmith is my age - and if he really does have a mental health issue I wish him well, but it is not good form to use that against people who don't know just because you got into an argument.

The flounce was just the icing on the cake, really. Sometimes this place is worse than bloody school. I really don't understand why everyone has to be so bloody sensitive all the time.

username.exe Oct 21st 2015 2:29 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing (Post 11776380)
I really don't understand why everyone has to be so bloody sensitive all the time.

:goodpost:

FlaviusAetius Oct 21st 2015 2:47 am

Re: 2016 Election
 
Anyone have any thoughts on whether Ryan - if he decides to run for Speaker - can get the R caucus running in a sensible direction? Or will the Freedom Caucus make it impossible for anyone to do that. IOW, is the Freedom Caucus a "rule or ruin" bunch?

sir_eccles Oct 21st 2015 3:05 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by FlaviusAetius (Post 11776454)
Anyone have any thoughts on whether Ryan - if he decides to run for Speaker - can get the R caucus running in a sensible direction? Or will the Freedom Caucus make it impossible for anyone to do that. IOW, is the Freedom Caucus a "rule or ruin" bunch?

Good question. I can easily imagine the freedom caucus saying "sure we'll behave" vote Ryan in and then a few months down the line start throwing a fit over abortion or something stupid. Either that or Ryan will have to make some huge concession just to win the vote.

FlaviusAetius Oct 21st 2015 3:15 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by sir_eccles (Post 11776477)
Good question. I can easily imagine the freedom caucus saying "sure we'll behave" vote Ryan in and then a few months down the line start throwing a fit over abortion or something stupid. Either that or Ryan will have to make some huge concession just to win the vote.

It looks like the job title should be "Cat Herder." Much as I viscerally dislike her, Pelosi was, I think, an effective Speaker. Could be that her caucus was made up, for the most part, of people as disciplined as the DPRK Workers' Party.

zargof Oct 21st 2015 3:58 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by FlaviusAetius (Post 11776454)
Anyone have any thoughts on whether Ryan - if he decides to run for Speaker - can get the R caucus running in a sensible direction? Or will the Freedom Caucus make it impossible for anyone to do that. IOW, is the Freedom Caucus a "rule or ruin" bunch?

I don't see anything changing just because Paul Ryan has the job. Their whole M.O. has been about no compromise from the beginning, and they've already demonstrated they're not bothered about the damage they'd do the economy if they don't get their way after the whole debt ceiling debacle when Boehner had to break the Hastert Rule to get the vote passed.

zargof Oct 21st 2015 4:29 am

Re: 2016 Election
 
So Diamond Joe isn't getting in this thing. Say hello to the next President: Hillary Clinton.

sir_eccles Oct 21st 2015 4:34 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by zargof (Post 11776557)
So Diamond Joe isn't getting in this thing. Say hello to the next President: Hillary Clinton.

Not it!

Biden rules out White House run - BBC News

civilservant Oct 21st 2015 4:43 am

Re: 2016 Election
 
Not election related per se, but I am very impressed with Paul Ryan. A policy wonk who actually seems to want to get out there and show the way (all be it on his terms) - I could easily see him as President in 2024 (assuming a 2 term president in 2016/20)

username.exe Oct 21st 2015 4:48 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by sir_eccles (Post 11776562)

I wonder if Warren can be convinced to change her mind.

FlaviusAetius Oct 21st 2015 4:54 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by zargof (Post 11776557)
So Diamond Joe isn't getting in this thing. Say hello to the next President: Hillary Clinton.

It would be entertaining to watch her run against Fiorina (doesn't look like that's likely), as both are deeply flawed.

zargof Oct 21st 2015 5:11 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by username.exe (Post 11776575)
I wonder if Warren can be convinced to change her mind.

No. Anyway, all of her supporters are supporting Bernie now, so it really doesn't matter.

FlaviusAetius Oct 21st 2015 5:44 am

Re: 2016 Election
 
This just in about Trump (not my guy, yet anyway) from the Canadian Brain Trust:
Donald Trump was invited to address a major gathering of the American Indian Nation two weeks ago in upstate New York

He spoke for almost an hour about his plans for increasing every Native American's present standard of living. He referred to how he had supported every Native American issue that came to the news media.

Although Mr Trump was vague about the details of his plans, he seemed most enthusiastic and spoke eloquently about his ideas for helping his "red sisters and brothers."

At the conclusion of his speech, the Tribes presented him with a plaque inscribed with his new Indian name, "Walking Eagle."

The proud Mr Trump accepted the plaque and then departed in his motorcade to a fundraiser, waving to the crowds.

A news reporter later asked the group of chiefs how they came to select the new name they had given to the Donald.

They explained that "Walking Eagle" is the name given to a bird so full of shit it can no longer fly.

sir_eccles Oct 21st 2015 5:55 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by FlaviusAetius (Post 11776620)
This just in about Trump (not my guy, yet anyway) from the Canadian Brain Trust:
Donald Trump was invited to address a major gathering of the American Indian Nation two weeks ago in upstate New York

He spoke for almost an hour about his plans for increasing every Native American's present standard of living. He referred to how he had supported every Native American issue that came to the news media.

Although Mr Trump was vague about the details of his plans, he seemed most enthusiastic and spoke eloquently about his ideas for helping his "red sisters and brothers."

At the conclusion of his speech, the Tribes presented him with a plaque inscribed with his new Indian name, "Walking Eagle."

The proud Mr Trump accepted the plaque and then departed in his motorcade to a fundraiser, waving to the crowds.

A news reporter later asked the group of chiefs how they came to select the new name they had given to the Donald.

They explained that "Walking Eagle" is the name given to a bird so full of shit it can no longer fly.

If only that joke wasn't as old as the hills!

Talking of Canadians... Trudeau making waves already about pulling out of the ISIS campaign, legalizing weed, tax the wealthy, admit refugees and much more. It will be interesting to see if such policies rub off on the candidates here or affects their numbers.

FlaviusAetius Oct 21st 2015 6:22 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by sir_eccles (Post 11776625)
If only that joke wasn't as old as the hills!

Talking of Canadians... Trudeau making waves already about pulling out of the ISIS campaign, legalizing weed, tax the wealthy, admit refugees and much more. It will be interesting to see if such policies rub off on the candidates here or affects their numbers.

Still thought it was a good enough joke to lighten things up around here and it did come from one of my Canadian cousins.

Splendid to see that Canada is pulling out of the fight against terrorism, isn't that greatest news ever!!! :thumbsup::thumbsup:

Now if we could just get everyone else to stop bothering ISIS and let them do what jihadis were born to do.


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