Teaching Salaries?
Apr 14th 2009, 10:30 am
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Re: Teaching Salaries?
I've honestly never heard of anyone in teaching who got a job before their visa grant (excluding those going on temporary state sponsored visas of course). It's rare to even get a job before moving in you have PR and are registered with the state body.
Most schools won't have a clue who TA are- it's only to do with visas, australian teachers have nothing to do with TA and TA have only been doing the assessments for a couple of years.
Most schools won't have a clue who TA are- it's only to do with visas, australian teachers have nothing to do with TA and TA have only been doing the assessments for a couple of years.
Apr 14th 2009, 11:26 pm
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Apr 15th 2009, 7:58 am
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Re: Teaching Salaries?
Have you considered transferring to secondary music? 11-18 jobs can have lot less compitition and no extra training is needed, schools can be quite desperate for music teachers.
how about teaching at several schools as an independent teacher, i know someone who used to work for 5 schools, all on 0.2 contracts. she got travelling time too, (she worked in and around bunbury in W.A.)
i would say secondary teaching is always going to be easier to find a job in, I would reccomend the change to anyone looking for other options into aus.
how about teaching at several schools as an independent teacher, i know someone who used to work for 5 schools, all on 0.2 contracts. she got travelling time too, (she worked in and around bunbury in W.A.)
i would say secondary teaching is always going to be easier to find a job in, I would reccomend the change to anyone looking for other options into aus.
Apr 15th 2009, 7:50 pm
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Re: Teaching Salaries?
Surely that is belittling secondary music teachers?! A few of my mates are Music teachers and it's no mean feat, they did a lot of specialised training and obviously are musicians themselves! So no, it's not an option without going back to retrain, which at my stage, is not an option! Don't worry about my getting into Oz, I will get there, by hook or by crook, and might well have a wee something up my sleeve to ensure that! 
Apr 15th 2009, 7:53 pm
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Re: Teaching Salaries?
Apr 15th 2009, 8:10 pm
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Surely that is belittling secondary music teachers?! A few of my mates are Music teachers and it's no mean feat, they did a lot of specialised training and obviously are musicians themselves! So no, it's not an option without going back to retrain, which at my stage, is not an option! Don't worry about my getting into Oz, I will get there, by hook or by crook, and might well have a wee something up my sleeve to ensure that!
no its not belttling secondary music teachers at all, like i said iwas commenting on personal experience. due to the huge lack of music teachers many primary teachers are finding that they can teach music at a secondary level without being required to retrain. that is not to say they are not qualified to do the job, obviously my friend was a gifted musician and found it fairly straightforward to transfer her skills and experience to the seconadary level.
i have met lots of teachers who started as primary and ended up in secondary and vice versa, i have had stints in both myself. PGCE's nowadays teach very similar skills to both primary and secondary student teachers, most of the lectures at my training college mix all students together.
dont worry, my advice was for people looking in general not just one person, it may be good advice for one, bad for another
Apr 15th 2009, 8:17 pm
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Re: Teaching Salaries?
no its not belttling secondary music teachers at all, like i said iwas commenting on personal experience. due to the huge lack of music teachers many primary teachers are finding that they can teach music at a secondary level without being required to retrain. that is not to say they are not qualified to do the job, obviously my friend was a gifted musician and found it fairly straightforward to transfer her skills and experience to the seconadary level.
i have met lots of teachers who started as primary and ended up in secondary and vice versa, i have had stints in both myself. PGCE's nowadays teach very similar skills to both primary and secondary student teachers, most of the lectures at my training college mix all students together.
dont worry, my advice was for people looking in general not just one person, it may be good advice for one, bad for another
i have met lots of teachers who started as primary and ended up in secondary and vice versa, i have had stints in both myself. PGCE's nowadays teach very similar skills to both primary and secondary student teachers, most of the lectures at my training college mix all students together.
dont worry, my advice was for people looking in general not just one person, it may be good advice for one, bad for another
Apr 15th 2009, 8:23 pm
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Re: Teaching Salaries?
very good point, most primary will stay in primary all their life, same with most secondary.
however, some people are looking at ways of getting into Aus, exploring every option is vital i think. for anyone who is thinking about this option, contact Select Education, they were the agency my friend used
however, some people are looking at ways of getting into Aus, exploring every option is vital i think. for anyone who is thinking about this option, contact Select Education, they were the agency my friend used
Apr 16th 2009, 6:27 pm
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Re: Teaching Salaries?
Have you considered transferring to secondary music? 11-18 jobs can have lot less compitition and no extra training is needed, schools can be quite desperate for music teachers.
how about teaching at several schools as an independent teacher, i know someone who used to work for 5 schools, all on 0.2 contracts. she got travelling time too, (she worked in and around bunbury in W.A.)
i would say secondary teaching is always going to be easier to find a job in, I would reccomend the change to anyone looking for other options into aus.
how about teaching at several schools as an independent teacher, i know someone who used to work for 5 schools, all on 0.2 contracts. she got travelling time too, (she worked in and around bunbury in W.A.)
i would say secondary teaching is always going to be easier to find a job in, I would reccomend the change to anyone looking for other options into aus.
OP, maybe it Derek's thought maybe worth a look. I've a another friend who went to NZ last year and three primary schools created a job for him - yr1 - yr8 and he's only ever taught secondary before.
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Apr 18th 2009, 7:00 am
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Re: Teaching Salaries?
My understanding is that primary schools in aus are requesting primary trained PE teachers to basically be responsible for teaching PE to all students. This, I believe, would mean that they would not be responsible for teaching other subject areas. Can anyone please comment how prevalent this is and are they in short demand as I would be quite happy to change from sec to primary if it meant that no additional training was required. Thanks in advance.
Apr 18th 2009, 8:30 am
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Re: Teaching Salaries?
Just a quick question any ideas how it is looking for ICT/Business Studies jobs Brisbane/Gold Coast area. I am currently HOD but I would not be looking for responsibility in Oz. Ideally a nice little part time job would be fab but I guess anything would do. Have most of you done supply at first and to get a foot in the door?
Apr 21st 2009, 11:35 pm
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Re: Teaching Salaries?
I know a guy who is trained as a secondary PE teacher and is teaching a primary class on a relief basis!! He has no qualification to teach primary kids and he is teaching ALL subjects to the class, not just PE!
