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Old Sep 27th 2011 | 4:17 am
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Originally Posted by Mitzyboy
Maybe so ... but they DO offer wireless internet via masts positioned in various positions. I can see the mast from here, and I contemplated going with them some months ago.
If you can see it, it will work!!!!!!!
 
Old Sep 27th 2011 | 4:20 am
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Originally Posted by megmet
Hi Mitzy....
I don't know anything about Europa, but I believe that with Telitec you only get the same speed as with Telefonica/Movistar as they would still be using the same Telefonica lines on a rural network.
Thats what I think would be the case, Meg.
as discussed previously, (was it here or another thread?) the length of cable from the last exchange\repeater will have a bearing on it. The longer the cable the higher the resistance and resistance = line loss, therefore it they pumped 100mb (you wish) at one end it may well still be only 1mb at your end. You have no control over the number of exchanges and interface boxes there are between you and that 100mb. In the same way, if there are a number of factories on your loop of the network they will also cause a line loss, which would give you better when they are shut, such as at weekends. You have no control as to where the engineer laying the cable has picked up the supply from.

go back to my water pipe analogy - IMHO it still holds good, which isnt good for you.
 
Old Sep 27th 2011 | 4:26 am
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Originally Posted by Domino
Thats what I think would be the case, Meg.
as discussed previously, (was it here or another thread?) the length of cable from the last exchange\repeater will have a bearing on it. The longer the cable the higher the resistance and resistance = line loss, therefore it they pumped 100mb (you wish) at one end it may well still be only 1mb at your end. You have no control over the number of exchanges and interface boxes there are between you and that 100mb. In the same way, if there are a number of factories on your loop of the network they will also cause a line loss, which would give you better when they are shut, such as at weekends. You have no control as to where the engineer laying the cable has picked up the supply from.

go back to my water pipe analogy - IMHO it still holds good, which isnt good for you.
The word is "WIRELESS"!!!!!!!
 
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Originally Posted by Saxy
If you can see it, it will work!!!!!!!
yup, thats the theory, remember that no one I have found GUARANTEES you a figure, it is always up to (unless they are mad or have good lawyers).

so you get it on a wireless, but after that initial\final hop it will be run on cable from there - or are you saying it will be radio all the way.

there are also some very nice systems available using satellite for broadband, providing a hop into the better UK system. If you can see it it will work !!!

I believe years ago when this thread first started there were some very variable readings from people with wireless.
 
Old Sep 27th 2011 | 4:34 am
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Originally Posted by megmet

So can we get back on thread instead of a discussion on 'Boys Toys' please.
I will be the judge of what is on topic on this thread.

As far as I am concerned the increasing use of WiFi in the home is relevant to a discussion about availability of Internet speeds.
 
Old Sep 27th 2011 | 4:35 am
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Originally Posted by Domino
yup, thats the theory, remember that no one I have found GUARANTEES you a figure, it is always up to (unless they are mad or have good lawyers).

so you get it on a wireless, but after that initial\final hop it will be run on cable from there - or are you saying it will be radio all the way.


It's wireless. That means theres no wire (well, maybe 3 ft of it in my house.

The mast in the distance ....... It sends a signal to the mini mast on my house which connects to the router thingy which connects to the lappy or PC. Thats how they can do it without those damned Telefonica people getting involved
 
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Originally Posted by megmet


You are obviously very lucky where you live Fred, but unless you are in a large city or near the coast then the very idea of a connection above 3mb at the very most is a joke, my own is only 1mb!
I'm not lucky at all. The best I can get is 3mb as we are some way from the exchange. I have been paying €39.90 +iva for that for 8 years!

Last week I finally persuaded Telefonica to reduce it to €24.90.
 
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Originally Posted by Saxy
The word is "WIRELESS"!!!!!!!
yup realise that, pse see my post above, no need for a hissy fit and remember the word WIRELESS the next time your mobile has no signal.

you may find http://www.europarl.europa.eu/en/pre...ternet-by-2013 of interest vis a vis frequencies.
just remember that 1.5ghz is about the same frequency used by a microwave oven to cook things, just with a klystron added - similar to that used in radar.
 
Old Sep 27th 2011 | 4:40 am
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Originally Posted by Domino
yup, thats the theory, remember that no one I have found GUARANTEES you a figure, it is always up to (unless they are mad or have good lawyers).

so you get it on a wireless, but after that initial\final hop it will be run on cable from there - or are you saying it will be radio all the way.

there are also some very nice systems available using satellite for broadband, providing a hop into the better UK system. If you can see it it will work !!!

I believe years ago when this thread first started there were some very variable readings from people with wireless.
Just about everything these days is "up to".
With normal landline internet you can only expect to get about 80% of that offered. Wireless has come on in leaps and bounds. If there was a mast near me, I wouldn't hesitate to sign up!
Yes it is wireless all the way!

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Originally Posted by Saxy
The word is "WIRELESS"!!!!!!!
Not here....surrounded by mountains, a call from one side of our nearest village to the other is all but hopeless!
 
Old Sep 27th 2011 | 4:44 am
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Originally Posted by Mitzyboy


It's wireless. That means theres no wire (well, maybe 3 ft of it in my house.

The mast in the distance ....... It sends a signal to the mini mast on my house which connects to the router thingy which connects to the lappy or PC. Thats how they can do it without those damned Telefonica people getting involved
Mitzy - sri I really do understand how wireless systems work, for radios, for satellites and also for broadband.
but as I intimated earlier, what happens to the signal before\after the mast in the distance ? all they are doing is replacing the final leg, yes that can be the cause of the line drop but after the aerial on the hill 10miles away it will spend most of its journey on a cable !! Who owns that cable ?? Probably Movistar who lease it to the operator.!!
 
Old Sep 27th 2011 | 4:45 am
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Well .... I sit here getting a pathetic .5 Mb connection which sends me spare sometimes, especially as I pay the same as someone who gets a decent connection.

So if someone can offer me 3 Mb wireless that maybe turns into 1.5 or 2 then it seems worthwhile to me.

I can connect my PC to the TV, and in theory I should be able to use the internet for that. But no ... no way.

Fred is right, requirements get bigger and bigger, but unfortunately TF doesnt seem to be moving with the times. We are only 4 kms away from Oliva. Our connection is Rural. A recent attempt to give me 6 by TF failed, and resulted only in a new router. I'm sorely tempted to go wireless, just put off by Telitecs charges.

I'm told Europa will do it with a dinner plate sized dish. I wait in anticipation
 
Old Sep 27th 2011 | 4:48 am
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Originally Posted by Domino
Mitzy - sri I really do understand how wireless systems work, for radios, for satellites and also for broadband.
but as I intimated earlier, what happens to the signal before\after the mast in the distance ? all they are doing is replacing the final leg, yes that can be the cause of the line drop but after the aerial on the hill 10miles away it will spend most of its journey on a cable !! Who owns that cable ?? Probably Movistar who lease it to the operator.!!
I dont even know what cable you are talking about Dom. The signal is transmitted to the mast, and from there to my house. Thats how I am told it works, so I know not what Movistar have to do with it.
 
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Originally Posted by Saxy
Just about everything these days is "up to".
With normal landline internet you can only expect to get about 80% of that offered. Wireless has come on in leaps and bounds. If there was a mast near me, I wouldn't hesitate to sign up!
Yes it is wireless all the way!

John.
in the middle of Granada, still a city and should get a reasonable landline service, we signed for 3mb - well BH works all day infront of a pc and doesnt want to be doing it all night as well, but all that a SpeedTest gives is 1-1.2mb, so what happened to the 80% ?

have you considered using satellite ? an up\down link in the UK would do wonders for your IP address and open up new avenues.
 
Old Sep 27th 2011 | 4:52 am
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Originally Posted by Domino
yup realise that, pse see my post above, no need for a hissy fit and remember the word WIRELESS the next time your mobile has no signal.

you may find http://www.europarl..eu/en/pressroom...ternet-by-2013 of interest vis a vis frequencies.
just remember that 1.5ghz is about the same frequency used by a microwave oven to cook things, just with a klystron added - similar to that used in radar.
Not having a hissy fit, just enjoying the fun
Regarding the performance of wireless, I don't think that companies would waste money erecting masts, unless they were superior to landline.
Some friends have wireless internet and are very pleased with it. They live out in the sticks near Tibi.
 


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