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Lion in Winter Apr 7th 2012 3:25 am

Re: A young couple, stepping on the dreaded lader!
 

Originally Posted by EmilyPenguin (Post 9993676)
If your all digging at my spelling, No.. Im not that good and I admit it.. But I again.. I have lived here since I was 9.. and dropped out of school at 14.. But just becasue I cant spell very well dosent mean Im not a responsable and hard wroking young person...


Pay no attention to them. They are behaving like 12-year-old bullies on the playground.

I'm sorry I have no useful advice for you since I live on another continent, but good luck to you. I remember what it's like to be 21 and trying to make your way against the odds.

JLFS Apr 7th 2012 3:26 am

Re: A young couple, stepping on the dreaded lader!
 

Originally Posted by Lion in Winter (Post 9993668)
How pleasant and welcoming everyone is here to a young person asking for advice. Hard to say whether the paranoia or the agreeable behaviour is the most striking.

I might have been a bit unwelcoming, but the OP made a comment that the 4.8million unemployed in Spain were UNEMPLOYABLE, which lets face it is a bit insulting, as anyone who has the slightest knowledge of the country and its problems would know is also completly untrue, and rather insulting to the hard working population whohave been left high and dry with no jobs,and are really suffering through the crisis.

So wind your neck in............

EmilyPenguin Apr 7th 2012 3:28 am

Re: A young couple, stepping on the dreaded lader!
 

Originally Posted by 82mph (Post 9993592)
Granada is very cheap to rent and to live, but there is no work here! As you say, if you're highly experienced there are jobs. Unfortunately they are currently paying a fraction of what the job would traditionally 'be worth'. As a city it is great. Not too big so you can work everywhere, but no so small that you would get bored. In general there's a great atmosphere, you have the mountains next to the city and the beach a short drive/bus-ride away. There are lots of people in your age-group and of all nationalities (few English but many English-speakers).

How's your boyfriend's English and personality? There are always English teaching positions available in the city for which, if you are willing to work long hours, you can be paid very well and, Spanish is less important.

Moving abroad at a young age can contaminate a person's mother-tongue, especially in less-used areas such as spelling, so it may not be for you. But if your boyfriend arrived more recently all he would need is a TEFL qualification, an outgoing personality and a good work ethic.

If you do decide to come here, the best time to look for work and cheap rental property is August before the students come back and before the academies start term.

Good luck!


Thank you for your advice.
It has deffenatly given us some ideas.

:D

Lion in Winter Apr 7th 2012 3:28 am

Re: A young couple, stepping on the dreaded lader!
 

Originally Posted by JLFS (Post 9993680)
I might have been a bit unwelcoming, but the OP made a comment that the 4.8million unemployed in Spain were UNEMPLOYABLE, which lets face it is a bit insulting, as anyone who has the slightest knowledge of the country and its problems would know is also completly untrue, and rather insulting to the hard working population who are really suffering through they crisis.

So wind your neck in............


You are supposed to be grown up. You make plenty of far ruder comments yourself - you are extremely combative.

EmilyPenguin Apr 7th 2012 3:33 am

Re: A young couple, stepping on the dreaded lader!
 

Originally Posted by JLFS (Post 9993680)
I might have been a bit unwelcoming, but the OP made a comment that the 4.8million unemployed in Spain were UNEMPLOYABLE, which lets face it is a bit insulting, as anyone who has the slightest knowledge of the country and its problems would know is also completly untrue, and rather insulting to the hard working population whohave been left high and dry with no jobs,and are really suffering through the crisis.

So wind your neck in............

Spaniards.... Not English living in Spain.
Gosh do I know how hard is it to be left high and dry... I spent the last 7 months working for less then 2€ an hour just to try and feed my parents..

Just becasue Im young dose not mean I know bug all... Infact, I probably know more about the real world then most of you who sit here looking at news papers that try and make the country look more dull then it all ready is..

I will not be apart of the "Lost generation"
But if you have lived in Spain long enough you would know how people take a joke at the Spainsh account saying that they are Lazy. heard of the term "Mañana" So loosen up a bit dude....

JLFS Apr 7th 2012 3:38 am

Re: A young couple, stepping on the dreaded lader!
 

Originally Posted by EmilyPenguin (Post 9993687)
Spaniards.... Not English living in Spain.
Gosh do I know how hard is it to be left high and dry... I spent the last 7 months working for less then 2€ an hour just to try and feed my parents..

Just becasue Im young dose not mean I know bug all... Infact, I probably know more about the real world then most of you who sit here looking at news papers that try and make the country look more dull then it all ready is..

I will not be apart of the "Lost generation"
But if you have lived in Spain long enough you would know how people take a joke at the Spainsh account saying that they are Lazy. heard of the term "Mañana" So loosen up a bit dude....

I am actually Spanish.

EmilyPenguin Apr 7th 2012 3:39 am

Re: A young couple, stepping on the dreaded lader!
 

Originally Posted by missile (Post 9993633)
Do you mean those who left school at 16 to run their own business, with no qualifications, no trade, no experience and no hope?

I find OPs spelling mistakes a bit too obvious, maybe contrived to hide their true identity?


I left school at 14... Imagen coming from another country at 9 years old and try and fit in. learn the language and carry on learning from where you left off in England.. Its HARD... Very hard..... and I had no other choise but to work... so before you try and make speculations on who is sitting behind this computer.. prehaps you should try and just keep your nose out if you have no adivce to give..

I opend a page on this fourm to try and get help from some adults.. who have been 20 years old once apon a time..and might be able to help me and my bf start out life...

And so far... only a few have been able to write something positive to me..
Im not stupid.. I know the world is going upside down... But Im not going to let that effect me living my life...

So why dont you take your sorry life off to another post.. and let thous who want to help others,, type....

EmilyPenguin Apr 7th 2012 3:40 am

Re: A young couple, stepping on the dreaded lader!
 

Originally Posted by JLFS (Post 9993694)
I am actually Spanish.



Okey then, But you speak enough English to know how our humor is...
Lighten up...
and like I said to that other dude..

If you dont have anything to say about my post... move on...

JLFS Apr 7th 2012 3:48 am

Re: A young couple, stepping on the dreaded lader!
 

Originally Posted by EmilyPenguin (Post 9993695)
I left school at 14... Imagen coming from another country at 9 years old and try and fit in. learn the language and carry on learning from where you left off in England.. Its HARD... Very hard..... and I had no other choise but to work... so before you try and make speculations on who is sitting behind this computer.. prehaps you should try and just keep your nose out if you have no adivce to give..

I opend a page on this fourm to try and get help from some adults.. who have been 20 years old once apon a time..and might be able to help me and my bf start out life...

And so far... only a few have been able to write something positive to me..
Im not stupid.. I know the world is going upside down... But Im not going to let that effect me living my life...

I went to live in the UK when I was 7, but my parents took me to a wealthier country with more opportunities, yours did the opposite.
So why dont you take your sorry life off to another post.. and let thous who want to help others,, type....

Can I ask you, do you think that it is right that your family brought you to Spain, and you have been working for 2euros an hour to feed them?
When in my world it is the parents job to support their children and not the other way round.

Do you think that it is right that you left school at 14 and worked,and have missed out on your education?

I ask because there are people who have children and want to come and live in Spain and never give a thought to what the future will be for their children in the jobs market.

Obvioulsy things have gone wrong for your parents, otherwise they would be supporting themselves, does it seem right that you missed out on part of your childhood because of this.

steviedeluxe Apr 7th 2012 3:55 am

Re: A young couple, stepping on the dreaded lader!
 

Originally Posted by EmilyPenguin (Post 9993695)
I left school at 14... Imagen coming from another country at 9 years old and try and fit in. learn the language and carry on learning from where you left off in England.. Its HARD... Very hard..... and I had no other choise but to work... so before you try and make speculations on who is sitting behind this computer.. prehaps you should try and just keep your nose out if you have no adivce to give..

I opend a page on this fourm to try and get help from some adults.. who have been 20 years old once apon a time..and might be able to help me and my bf start out life...

And so far... only a few have been able to write something positive to me..
Im not stupid.. I know the world is going upside down... But Im not going to let that effect me living my life...

So why dont you take your sorry life off to another post.. and let thous who want to help others,, type....

You're showing a lot of spirit! I for one imagine you're the type to find opportunities wherever you go. I'm not sure this board will have many positive pieces of advice though - most posters here (I understand) have retired to live in Spain, and not many have worked or ran a business there, with just a few exceptions.

Incidentally, as you mentioned Granada, I have a little anecdote that may interest you. When I took a language course there back in the early 90s, the unemployment was as bad as it is now. I bumped into some British and Dutch young people who worked in nightclubs - not high paid work, just operating the cloakroom or cleaning /serving up glasses etc. They told me it wasn't hard to get that type of work as local people had no desire to work at night, plus having guiris as staff was a plus point for the club. So if your partner got into the teaching game, there may be this type of opportunity? I suspect it will be hard if only one of you gets a job to start, but there is nothing to stop you taking on part-time work eg baby-sitting children. I'm sure you know plenty of ways to hustle work so I'll leave it there, and wish you good luck.

EmilyPenguin Apr 7th 2012 4:04 am

Re: A young couple, stepping on the dreaded lader!
 

Originally Posted by JLFS (Post 9993704)
Can I ask you, do you think that it is right that your family brought you to Spain, and you have been working for 2euros an hour to feed them?
When in my world it is the parents job to support their children and not the other way round.

Do you think that it is right that you left school at 14 and worked,and have missed out on your education?

I ask because there are people who have children and want to come and live in Spain and never give a thought to what the future will be for their children in the jobs market.

Obvioulsy things have gone wrong for your parents, otherwise they would be supporting themselves, does it seem right that you missed out on part of your childhood because of this.



What was I going to do? Let them starve?....... Work dried up for everyone as we all know.. My mother has bad artritis and cant work..
My father now works from home, online and works bloody hard...
Im not afraid of working hard for little money and stuggling as long as I have health and Im happy... Which I am.. I have very little, but my parents, family, my boyfriend and my boyfriends happy make me oh so very happy and I wouldnt change a thing that has happend in my life becasue it has made me who I am.. a strong young indepentant woman.... and I may not have qualifications but I have another language under my belt... Which really... its all about what you know and the expirence, I have work expirence, and Im very good at the jobs that I have done, I have turned around failuring business, as well as my own, that was closed down becasue of the resion.

my parents done a wonderfull job at brining me up... and I would never tell them any difrent..

Thats the problem with most kids now days... they have no family values and are too lazy to get off their backsides and work... and fight for what they want....

jackytoo Apr 7th 2012 4:06 am

Re: A young couple, stepping on the dreaded lader!
 

Originally Posted by Lion in Winter (Post 9993677)

I'm sorry I have no useful advice for you since I live on another continent, but good luck to you. I remember what it's like to be 21 and trying to make your way against the odds.

Well I would agree there. Seems your only point of being on the forum is to paste and criticise other peoples post. Not enough happening on the US forum.

To you and all the other naive posters plus the winder-uppers.

You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time

EmilyPenguin Apr 7th 2012 4:08 am

Re: A young couple, stepping on the dreaded lader!
 

Originally Posted by steviedeluxe (Post 9993713)
You're showing a lot of spirit! I for one imagine you're the type to find opportunities wherever you go. I'm not sure this board will have many positive pieces of advice though - most posters here (I understand) have retired to live in Spain, and not many have worked or ran a business there, with just a few exceptions.

Incidentally, as you mentioned Granada, I have a little anecdote that may interest you. When I took a language course there back in the early 90s, the unemployment was as bad as it is now. I bumped into some British and Dutch young people who worked in nightclubs - not high paid work, just operating the cloakroom or cleaning /serving up glasses etc. They told me it wasn't hard to get that type of work as local people had no desire to work at night, plus having guiris as staff was a plus point for the club. So if your partner got into the teaching game, there may be this type of opportunity? I suspect it will be hard if only one of you gets a job to start, but there is nothing to stop you taking on part-time work eg baby-sitting children. I'm sure you know plenty of ways to hustle work so I'll leave it there, and wish you good luck.

Thank you very much, I think we are going to look more into Granada, and trying to work as whatever, there are plenty of bars and nightclubs in Granada as its a univiersty city.. positive thinking! :D

Thanks again for the adivce, :D

Lion in Winter Apr 7th 2012 4:13 am

Re: A young couple, stepping on the dreaded lader!
 

Originally Posted by steviedeluxe (Post 9993713)
You're showing a lot of spirit!


Agreed. Not everyone gets the easiest start in life.

JLFS Apr 7th 2012 4:15 am

Re: A young couple, stepping on the dreaded lader!
 

Originally Posted by EmilyPenguin (Post 9993725)
What was I going to do? Let them starve?....... Work dried up for everyone as we all know.. My mother has bad artritis and cant work..
My father now works from home, online and works bloody hard...
Im not afraid of working hard for little money and stuggling as long as I have health and Im happy... Which I am.. I have very little, but my parents, family, my boyfriend and my boyfriends happy make me oh so very happy and I wouldnt change a thing that has happend in my life becasue it has made me who I am.. a strong young indepentant woman.... and I may not have qualifications but I have another language under my belt... Which really... its all about what you know and the expirence, I have work expirence, and Im very good at the jobs that I have done, I have turned around failuring business, as well as my own, that was closed down becasue of the resion.

my parents done a wonderfull job at brining me up... and I would never tell them any difrent..

Thats the problem with most kids now days... they have no family values and are too lazy to get off their backsides and work... and fight for what they want....

I think you are wrong there Emily, most want to work, and earn a living, and I admire your spirit, but I still dont think it is right that you at your tender age should have to make sacrifices and support your parents.

And to be honest, having another language under you belt is no great shakes in the job market, others have 3 or 4 and still dont get paid the premium for language skills.

A second language, is a good tool to have along side other qualifications, as a stand alone, it does not count for much


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