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amideislas Aug 23rd 2013 12:04 am

Re: Would you go back to the UK ?
 

Originally Posted by cricketman (Post 10865465)
Yes that is a decent point

Lots of evidence on this thread that amideislas has never worked in the PR industry!

You know, recently, you've been being pretty rational, and in fact I'd agree with many of your recent views. You're on a roll... perhaps might be a good idea to avoid yet another embarrassment...

agoreira Aug 23rd 2013 12:32 am

Re: Would you go back to the UK ?
 

Originally Posted by EnglishPatriot (Post 10865411)
I find the UK media, particularly the left wing outlets like the Guardian to be pretty biased and refuse to report things that might be negative to their own ideologies and causes.

In the case of the Guardian, they will seldom ever print anything that portrays immigrants, unions, the BBC and left wing politics in general in a negative light.

They love to criticise the Tories, but their criticism of the government is very fragmented because they won't engage in equal criticism of Labour.

The Daily Mail is exactly the same, but obviously with a right wing ideological bias rather than a left wing ideological bias.

Like with Spain, you will seldom get the truth from a British newspaper. They're all playing up to their ideological biases and refusing to accept that anything could be wrong with their political opinions, usually resorting to blaming the other side for the country's problems.

Yeh, but would that influence your decision to go back to UK??????:confused:

EnglishPatriot Aug 23rd 2013 12:37 am

Re: Would you go back to the UK ?
 

Originally Posted by agoreira (Post 10865508)
Yeh, but would that influence your decision to go back to UK??????:confused:

Yes, I think many British people are deluded and brainwashed by the media.

The UK media is one of the most cynical, biased and controlled in the developed world.

amideislas Aug 23rd 2013 12:45 am

Re: Would you go back to the UK ?
 

Originally Posted by EnglishPatriot (Post 10865519)
Yes, I think many British people are deluded and brainwashed by the media.

The UK media is one of the most cynical, biased and controlled in the developed world.

With nothing else to compare to, I can see how you might think that. Leave the country for a while and see what the media is like elsewhere. Try the middle east or Asia, or even Russia, where virtually everything you see in the media proves that country is the world's most perfect, and the rest of the world is completely evil. That might give you some comparison, and likely a completely different perspective.

agoreira Aug 23rd 2013 1:08 am

Re: Would you go back to the UK ?
 

Originally Posted by EnglishPatriot (Post 10865519)
Yes, I think many British people are deluded and brainwashed by the media.

The UK media is one of the most cynical, biased and controlled in the developed world.

I think you missed the irony, start a thread about UK having the worst press in the world if you wish, I can't see that your posts have anything to do with people going back to UK or not.

IamStu Aug 23rd 2013 1:14 am

Re: Would you go back to the UK ?
 

Originally Posted by EnglishPatriot (Post 10865519)
Yes, I think many British people are deluded and brainwashed by the media.

The UK media is one of the most cynical, biased and controlled in the developed world.

Are you therefore brainwashed and deluded?
Did you understand the question? :confused:

EnglishPatriot Aug 23rd 2013 1:43 am

Re: Would you go back to the UK ?
 

Originally Posted by amideislas (Post 10865538)
With nothing else to compare to, I can see how you might think that. Leave the country for a while and see what the media is like elsewhere. Try the middle east or Asia, or even Russia, where virtually everything you see in the media proves that country is the world's most perfect, and the rest of the world is completely evil. That might give you some comparison, and likely a completely different perspective.

This is the Spain section of British Expats, therefore by default the comparison is with Spain.

I would say the Spanish media is no more biased than the British media, and in many cases considerably better.

The most popular Spanish newspapers are primarily quality broadsheets, whereas the most popular British newspapers by and large are red tops.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I'm aware Spain does not have a newspaper that is comparable to the likes of the Daily Mail, The Sun or The Mirror.

jackytoo Aug 23rd 2013 2:09 am

Re: Would you go back to the UK ?
 
But what has it got to do with would you go back to the UK:blink: All we have here is yet another "What about the UK then" thread. Don't think a biased press would put me off living anywhere...having a lot of illegal properties and a biased Judiciary would!

When we decided we had enough of Spain we looked at a few other places. Barbados, not much house for your money. Does have a Waitrose though:D Panama...hated it:thumbdown: We seriously liked St. Kitts and has good tax breaks, inheritance laws etc. very civilised and some good affordable properties. We decided living on small islands wasn't for us, ok if you are rich and have a helicopter:lol: I love the Caribbean for holidays, adore Italy too but wouldn't want to live there. Florida would be our choice but seeing as the US don't allow foreign retirees that's out.

Quite enjoying being close to friends and family again, going to London weekly and all the other events always happening. The summer weather has been a bonus and we have managed to get to Florida and the Caribbean twice per year plus a few visits to Spain for a wedding and other get togethers. Although having lived in Spain for so long it doesn't really feel like a real holiday:D

Domino Aug 23rd 2013 9:34 am

Re: Would you go back to the UK ?
 

Originally Posted by EnglishPatriot (Post 10865643)
This is the Spain section of British Expats, therefore by default the comparison is with Spain.

I would say the Spanish media is no more biased than the British media, and in many cases considerably better.

The most popular Spanish newspapers are primarily quality broadsheets, whereas the most popular British newspapers by and large are red tops.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I'm aware Spain does not have a newspaper that is comparable to the likes of the Daily Mail, The Sun or The Mirror.

my mum had red tops delivered every day except Saturday and Sunday when it was always the gold top
:rofl:

bxpuser24710519 Aug 23rd 2013 9:37 am

Re: Would you go back to the UK ?
 

Originally Posted by Domino (Post 10866355)
my mum had red tops delivered every day except Saturday and Sunday when it was always the gold top
:rofl:

:thumbsup:

Dick Dasterdly Aug 23rd 2013 10:08 am

Re: Would you go back to the UK ?
 
I've lost count of the number of expats I've met over the years who appeared very content with life in Spain and seemed to have no intention of ever going back to the UK.

Yet, at the end of the day the vast majority of them did !

Nothing at all to do with the crisis or hard times, as back then the living was easy and cheap.

The most common reasons I heard were to be back with family or back to their roots and areas and old friends they had previously been close to, or brought up with, but no doubt there were others.

I suppose the moral of the story is that the vast majority of expats can in truth never say never, no matter what their stated views or intentions may be at any particular moment in time.

IamStu Aug 23rd 2013 10:18 am

Re: Would you go back to the UK ?
 

Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 10866396)
I've lost count of the number of expats I've met over the years who appeared very content with life in Spain and seemed to have no intention of ever going back to the UK.

Yet, at the end of the day the vast majority of them did !

Nothing at all to do with the crisis or hard times, as back then the living was easy and cheap.

The most common reasons I heard were to be back with family or back to their roots and areas and old friends they had previously been close to, or brought up with, but no doubt there were others.

I suppose the moral of the story is that the vast majority of expats can in truth never say never, no matter what their stated views or intentions may be at any particular moment in time.

I think that's very true DD.
As life moves forward our wants and needs change with it.
The way I feel now, I wouldn't go back. I might feel very different a few years down the line.

stuboy Aug 23rd 2013 1:57 pm

Re: Would you go back to the UK ?
 

Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 10866396)
I've lost count of the number of expats I've met over the years who appeared very content with life in Spain and seemed to have no intention of ever going back to the UK.

Yet, at the end of the day the vast majority of them did !

Nothing at all to do with the crisis or hard times, as back then the living was easy and cheap.

The most common reasons I heard were to be back with family or back to their roots and areas and old friends they had previously been close to, or brought up with, but no doubt there were others.

I suppose the moral of the story is that the vast majority of expats can in truth never say never, no matter what their stated views or intentions may be at any particular moment in time.

Because the grass in not always greener. If your motives for moving are true and just then I think you stand a greater chance of success.

pete_l Aug 23rd 2013 5:13 pm

Re: Would you go back to the UK ?
 

Originally Posted by stuboy (Post 10866602)
Because the grass in not always greener. If your motives for moving are true and just then I think you stand a greater chance of success.

The thing to remember is that people who are prepared to "up sticks" once and move to another country are the ones with the sort of personality (and the means) that makes this easier. As a consequence it should be no surprise that a proportion of them will choose to switch country again. That they decide to back to their original country is hardly surprising when you consider that they will still have more in common with that country than with any other.

There are no absolutes, so far as moving abroad are concerned and what is right for one time in a person's life is not necessarily so attractive for always. Moving back shouldn't be seen as a failure, either. It's just another choice that some people are lucky enough to have - and to exercise.

scampicat Aug 23rd 2013 6:52 pm

Re: Would you go back to the UK ?
 

Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 10866396)
I've lost count of the number of expats I've met over the years who appeared very content with life in Spain and seemed to have no intention of ever going back to the UK.

Yet, at the end of the day the vast majority of them did !

Nothing at all to do with the crisis or hard times, as back then the living was easy and cheap.

The most common reasons I heard were to be back with family or back to their roots and areas and old friends they had previously been close to, or brought up with, but no doubt there were others.

I suppose the moral of the story is that the vast majority of expats can in truth never say never, no matter what their stated views or intentions may be at any particular moment in time.

I agree with this.

We always knew our move would not be permanent and said so.

I have a friend in Spain who says she will never leave, but now her globe-trotting son has settled down with his wife in the UK, I bet if grandchildren come along she will be there like a shot :)


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