Why do so many fail?
Jun 13th 2007 | 9:28 pm
#136
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Re: Why do so many fail?
Da nada..........its all on the PM.....all forgotten and moved on.....friends again?
x x x
x x x
Jun 13th 2007 | 9:34 pm
#137
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Re: Why do so many fail?
I need to reply to this.
We came here last year, we have been here almost a year. We earn very little, we have filed for bankrupcy in the UK, so we have NOTHING TO FALL BACK ON. WE HAVE no savings, WE cannot use a credit card to bail ourselves out. BUT. We manage! I think this whole fail/ succeed thing is not just about research, it's about wants, needs and expectaions.
I can do a weekly shop for 50 euro's, that can be lunch dinner and breakfast for a family of 4, good food as well, not cheap crap. We spend very little on going out and entertainment, we are resourceful,
If you want a life stlye that feels like you are on holiday the whole time, expext the consequences to be dissatisfaction. I am afraid I disagree with glad 2 be back.
The funny thing is she has left here and moved to kent, where I left and was disparate to get away from ! It really is a bout perspective and personnel experience.
I think everyone started to feel a bit judged by the word fail, when really it is just a word. There are more important things to get your knickers in a twist about.
I hope this has not offended any one, and let me know if you need any tips on living cheap, the first thing you need is a truck load of humility and the rest follows quite easily.
love
mary x x
We came here last year, we have been here almost a year. We earn very little, we have filed for bankrupcy in the UK, so we have NOTHING TO FALL BACK ON. WE HAVE no savings, WE cannot use a credit card to bail ourselves out. BUT. We manage! I think this whole fail/ succeed thing is not just about research, it's about wants, needs and expectaions.
I can do a weekly shop for 50 euro's, that can be lunch dinner and breakfast for a family of 4, good food as well, not cheap crap. We spend very little on going out and entertainment, we are resourceful,
If you want a life stlye that feels like you are on holiday the whole time, expext the consequences to be dissatisfaction. I am afraid I disagree with glad 2 be back.
The funny thing is she has left here and moved to kent, where I left and was disparate to get away from ! It really is a bout perspective and personnel experience.
I think everyone started to feel a bit judged by the word fail, when really it is just a word. There are more important things to get your knickers in a twist about.
I hope this has not offended any one, and let me know if you need any tips on living cheap, the first thing you need is a truck load of humility and the rest follows quite easily.
love
mary x x
as I said in my original reply, people come here & expect too much!
and the OP did say 'fail to settle' in his post.......too many have focussed upon the thread title......maybe it can be adjusted by a mod?
Jun 13th 2007 | 9:36 pm
#138
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Jun 13th 2007 | 9:37 pm
#139
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Re: Why do so many fail?
[QUOTE=glad 2 b back;4912258]
as to relishing the fact that people 'fail' NO!!
just that you can ususally tell pretty quickly if they have realistic expectations or not
and as I have said a thousand times, what you put into life you can expect to get out of it.
We used to have a book running of who we thought would make it and who we thought would go home soon![/QUOTE]
That doesn't surprise me, plenty of people relish on the fact that others have left or as not doing as well as they have or say they have.
As someone else's failure makes them feel superior, met plenty of those, 10 a penny along the CDS.
We used to have a book running of who we thought would make it and who we thought would go home soon![/QUOTE]
That doesn't surprise me, plenty of people relish on the fact that others have left or as not doing as well as they have or say they have.
As someone else's failure makes them feel superior, met plenty of those, 10 a penny along the CDS.
just that you can ususally tell pretty quickly if they have realistic expectations or not
Jun 13th 2007 | 9:40 pm
#140
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Re: Why do so many fail?
Forget that, just re-read some of your old posts, old grudge...let go of past luv..I have. You were obviously a member of the other forum and will disagree with everything I say. Even if you really do agree as I said I didn't agree with word "fail" as did you.
How you can feed a family of 4 on 50E a week is beyond me, and everyone seems to presume that we left Spain pennyless. We left on a high, my OH had loads of work when we left the most he ever had. We had enough money to set us up initially in the UK. We didn't need to sell our house. We planned to leave which took over a year to put into action. We certainly didn't go cap n hand like so many others do back to blighty.
How you can feed a family of 4 on 50E a week is beyond me, and everyone seems to presume that we left Spain pennyless. We left on a high, my OH had loads of work when we left the most he ever had. We had enough money to set us up initially in the UK. We didn't need to sell our house. We planned to leave which took over a year to put into action. We certainly didn't go cap n hand like so many others do back to blighty.
Jun 13th 2007 | 9:43 pm
#141
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Re: Why do so many fail?
Just curious about one thing Glad ....why are you still involved in the BE forum and reading and posting about Spain?? Shouldn't you now be involved in a Kent forum of some kind ?? Nothing wrong with Kent..if I didn't need to be nearer London I would happily live up a creek with a view of the Medway etc. But of course still holding on to the house in Spain.
Lots of different opinions in this thread. We all have very different experiences of Spain. Perhaps Maryanne's need to be thrifty is a blessing in disguise....it is involving her more in the way many of the Spanish must live, especially those with very low incomes. Life doesn't have to be all about lounging by the pool in Spain
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Lots of different opinions in this thread. We all have very different experiences of Spain. Perhaps Maryanne's need to be thrifty is a blessing in disguise....it is involving her more in the way many of the Spanish must live, especially those with very low incomes. Life doesn't have to be all about lounging by the pool in Spain
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Jun 13th 2007 | 9:44 pm
#142
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Re: Why do so many fail?
[QUOTE=lynnxa;4912362]
Some people do, I've seen and heard it many a time people gloating etc..its not nice.
As for failing to settle perhaps misconstued but I still disagree with the word fail, as I didn't, I settled for 6 years therefore didn't fail.
Maryann has explained about the budgeting and it brought back memories as I did it too many a time, you make use of resources I used to buy flour at 20c a bag and homebake everything.
anyway lets all calm down i'm off to Maidstone now so hopefully we'll chat later xx
As for failing to settle perhaps misconstued but I still disagree with the word fail, as I didn't, I settled for 6 years therefore didn't fail.
Maryann has explained about the budgeting and it brought back memories as I did it too many a time, you make use of resources I used to buy flour at 20c a bag and homebake everything.
anyway lets all calm down i'm off to Maidstone now so hopefully we'll chat later xx
Jun 13th 2007 | 9:45 pm
#143
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Re: Why do so many fail?
Just curious about one thing Glad ....why are you still involved in the BE forum and reading and posting about Spain?? Shouldn't you now be involved in a Kent forum of some kind ?? Nothing wrong with Kent..if I didn't need to be nearer London I would happily live up a creek with a view of the Medway etc. But of course still holding on to the house in Spain.
Lots of different opinions in this thread. We all have very different experiences of Spain. Perhaps Maryanne's need to be thrifty is a blessing in disguise....it is involving her more in the way many of the Spanish must live, especially those with very low incomes. Life doesn't have to be all about lounging by the pool in Spain.
Lots of different opinions in this thread. We all have very different experiences of Spain. Perhaps Maryanne's need to be thrifty is a blessing in disguise....it is involving her more in the way many of the Spanish must live, especially those with very low incomes. Life doesn't have to be all about lounging by the pool in Spain
.that's the problem for a lot of people......they expect life here to be one long holiday........
Jun 13th 2007 | 9:46 pm
#144
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Re: Why do so many fail?
Where there is a will there is a way. I remember a friend who was poor and unemployed bemoaning that she has spent her budget for the day...a £1 on shop bought chips. Now I would have made that go a long way. I remember living on chicken livers, pasta with a raw egg swirled in, etc etc. Buying loads of veg cheap at the end of the day from Soho market. Can be done.
Jun 13th 2007 | 9:47 pm
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Re: Why do so many fail?
Just curious about one thing Glad ....why are you still involved in the BE forum and reading and posting about Spain?? Shouldn't you now be involved in a Kent forum of some kind ?? Nothing wrong with Kent..if I didn't need to be nearer London I would happily live up a creek with a view of the Medway etc. But of course still holding on to the house in Spain.
Lots of different opinions in this thread. We all have very different experiences of Spain. Perhaps Maryanne's need to be thrifty is a blessing in disguise....it is involving her more in the way many of the Spanish must live, especially those with very low incomes. Life doesn't have to be all about lounging by the pool in Spain.
Lots of different opinions in this thread. We all have very different experiences of Spain. Perhaps Maryanne's need to be thrifty is a blessing in disguise....it is involving her more in the way many of the Spanish must live, especially those with very low incomes. Life doesn't have to be all about lounging by the pool in Spain
.I knew someone would ask me that, I'll reply quickly Spain was part of my life for so long I'm still interested. I still have my house there and will be putting it on the market in the hols maybe when it's sold I'll move on entirely. Also I'm interested in how everyone else finds it, is it similar to my experiences or completely different. If people want me to go I will.
also as for lounging by the pool my life was far from that believe me.
Jun 13th 2007 | 9:56 pm
#146
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Re: Why do so many fail?
No please don't go....we are not mean and petty minded. It's like a hobby...I love sailing, some people detest it and just cannot see the attraction. The same with a country. I think we are using the wrong language. You tried something, decided it was not for you and went home. I have a friend aged 67 who has lived in France for the last 10 years. Very active in the community, a singer she performs still in churches and chateaus, has a little summer concert in her barn for all the locals. She is now considering getting somewhere smaller and a place in England to be nearer the family when they return from posting in the Middle East. Not failure, just change. They say the key to a successful life is to be flexible. If Spain was not giving you what you wanted, then it is not failure to walk away to something new. Our only debate is perhaps you were dissatisfied because you like many others went with the wrong expectations. Utopia is a myth.
Jun 13th 2007 | 10:04 pm
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Re: Why do so many fail?
No please don't go....we are not mean and petty minded. It's like a hobby...I love sailing, some people detest it and just cannot see the attraction. The same with a country. I think we are using the wrong language. You tried something, decided it was not for you and went home. I have a friend aged 67 who has lived in France for the last 10 years. Very active in the community, a singer she performs still in churches and chateaus, has a little summer concert in her barn for all the locals. She is now considering getting somewhere smaller and a place in England to be nearer the family when they return from posting in the Middle East. Not failure, just change. They say the key to a successful life is to be flexible. If Spain was not giving you what you wanted, then it is not failure to walk away to something new. Our only debate is perhaps you were dissatisfied because you like many others went with the wrong expectations. Utopia is a myth.
I'm finding it so hard to get out the house today, I'm going now just have top put my lippy on. lol.
No I didn't have any expectations of Spain, I'd never been abroad before I went there and just liked what I saw, I was young, my daughter was young, I had family there (although I may as well not had) I fell in love. Maybe it was a holiday romance that brought me back and I've moved on as I grew to deteste the place. I didn't expect utopia, I didn't expect anything apart from to buy a property cheap (which I did), I managed to own my own house out right at 27 which was a dream that I achieved and then I moved on.
Not many reasons brought me there but many reasons made me leave, also I lived in Ireland before Spain, I had wanted to leave for years but was stuck in rut and didn't know where to go or what to do. Spain was an opportunity and I never went back to Ireland. Infact I never lived in Kent before now. I grew up in London so this is all new to me too.
Jun 13th 2007 | 10:37 pm
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Re: Why do so many fail?
I'm finding it so hard to get out the house today, I'm going now just have top put my lippy on. lol.
No I didn't have any expectations of Spain, I'd never been abroad before I went there and just liked what I saw, I was young, my daughter was young, I had family there (although I may as well not had) I fell in love. Maybe it was a holiday romance that brought me back and I've moved on as I grew to deteste the place. I didn't expect utopia, I didn't expect anything apart from to buy a property cheap (which I did), I managed to own my own house out right at 27 which was a dream that I achieved and then I moved on.
Not many reasons brought me there but many reasons made me leave, also I lived in Ireland before Spain, I had wanted to leave for years but was stuck in rut and didn't know where to go or what to do. Spain was an opportunity and I never went back to Ireland. Infact I never lived in Kent before now. I grew up in London so this is all new to me too.
No I didn't have any expectations of Spain, I'd never been abroad before I went there and just liked what I saw, I was young, my daughter was young, I had family there (although I may as well not had) I fell in love. Maybe it was a holiday romance that brought me back and I've moved on as I grew to deteste the place. I didn't expect utopia, I didn't expect anything apart from to buy a property cheap (which I did), I managed to own my own house out right at 27 which was a dream that I achieved and then I moved on.
Not many reasons brought me there but many reasons made me leave, also I lived in Ireland before Spain, I had wanted to leave for years but was stuck in rut and didn't know where to go or what to do. Spain was an opportunity and I never went back to Ireland. Infact I never lived in Kent before now. I grew up in London so this is all new to me too.
I have wasted so much time on here this morning, now the bread wont bake for lunch!
love
mary x
Jun 13th 2007 | 11:07 pm
#149
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Re: Why do so many fail?
I did not see that one coming!!
Yeah, I'm one of those people in life that needs to feel superior to others, thats why I am condescending, patronising and arrogant in each and every one of my posts.
If you understand people properly you can see who will make a go of something and who expects people to make a go of it for themselves.
I suspect that you are posting so much on here because you are feeling sensitive about returning, you shouldn't, it means nothing to me, nor should it, I wouldn't assume to know your circumstances nor would I judge, ask anyone on here, I never judge.
Jun 14th 2007 | 12:23 am
#150
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Re: Why do so many fail?
No not at all, its just that we have almost gone full circle, the comment was an odd one, thats all I originally said, and if you go back and read the whole post with the OP's post as well, its an odd comment, thats all.
An odd comment, thats all.
Its how I see the comment, odd, if you see it differently then bully for ya, I'm glad you do.
An odd comment, thats all.
Its how I see the comment, odd, if you see it differently then bully for ya, I'm glad you do.
