What would you do if ...
Jul 26th 2012 | 12:58 am
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Re: What would you do if ...
The whole Spanish culture is built around this. If its one thing the Spanish know how to do, it is to be self-sufficient based around a small village - with bartering and skills sharing. There are thousands of years of history doing this and it was the way of life of the majority up until living memory
Andalucia is a bit of a special case because there were regions there where the peasants were subservent to the landowners and they had it real bad. But where the people owned their own land, the way of life was hard, but sustainable
Oh and every Spaniard I know has at least one family house lying empty in a village somewhere, with no mortgage on it of course, sometimes a granny will be living there
(except the home made wine, yuk). A much more satisfying life, you should try it.
Jul 26th 2012 | 1:01 am
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Re: What would you do if ...
Not so, the "second homes" and parcelas aren't mortgaged to the banks, they belong to the families and are inherited. They aren´t like the second homes rich Brits have in the UK, just used for holidays. Nearly everyone I know round here has one and even if they are on hard times they wouldn't dream of selling them. They keep pigs and poultry and grow enough produce to feed themselves and their extended families.
You must have a very poor view of human nature if you think the campesinos would let the townies starve to death - but they might put them to work with a spade or a plough so they earn their keep!
You must have a very poor view of human nature if you think the campesinos would let the townies starve to death - but they might put them to work with a spade or a plough so they earn their keep!
As for my view on human nature, tell me why the wealthier northern Spanish did not send sufficient food to the starving south in Franco`s day?
Jul 26th 2012 | 1:31 am
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There would have been complete ignorance of the situation in the North, it's not as if Franco publicised it. And anyway most Northerners were relatively wealther i.e. they had basic food to feed themselves, not actually any money
The only way South out of Asturias until the 50s was by donkey over the mountains!
Jul 26th 2012 | 1:58 am
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Re: What would you do if ...
Absolutely
The whole Spanish culture is built around this. If its one thing the Spanish know how to do, it is to be self-sufficient based around a small village - with bartering and skills sharing. There are thousands of years of history doing this and it was the way of life of the majority up until living memory
Andalucia is a bit of a special case because there were regions there where the peasants were subservent to the landowners and they had it real bad. But where the people owned their own land, the way of life was hard, but sustainable
Oh and every Spaniard I know has at least one family house lying empty in a village somewhere, with no mortgage on it of course, sometimes a granny will be living there
The whole Spanish culture is built around this. If its one thing the Spanish know how to do, it is to be self-sufficient based around a small village - with bartering and skills sharing. There are thousands of years of history doing this and it was the way of life of the majority up until living memory
Andalucia is a bit of a special case because there were regions there where the peasants were subservent to the landowners and they had it real bad. But where the people owned their own land, the way of life was hard, but sustainable
Oh and every Spaniard I know has at least one family house lying empty in a village somewhere, with no mortgage on it of course, sometimes a granny will be living there
Spain is the fourth largest economy in the Eurozone. It's in trouble like every other country in Europe. The main difference is that Spanish people don't like the 'men in black', for historic reasons stretching back over the years, and they may baulk at being closely supervised by foreigners from Brussels.
Jul 26th 2012 | 2:23 am
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Re: What would you do if ...
We're talking about situations where people need to find food to eat - or they starve
Its already started to happen in Andalucia, families have gone back to the small holdings that were left neglected in the boom years.
Most people in Spain over 60 know how to work the land. In 20 years yes people would starve to death, but that knowledge is still around...just
Its already started to happen in Andalucia, families have gone back to the small holdings that were left neglected in the boom years.
Most people in Spain over 60 know how to work the land. In 20 years yes people would starve to death, but that knowledge is still around...just
You come out openly with some strange idea's, I dread to imagine whats going on in your head
Jul 26th 2012 | 2:26 am
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Re: What would you do if ...
In that situation it would make far more sense to keep them in the towns and cities and let intensive farming methods provide the food. Look what happened to Rhodesian farms when broken down into small pockets, they can't even feed themselves these days when at one time they were the bread basket of Africa.
You come out openly with some strange idea's, I dread to imagine whats going on in your head
You come out openly with some strange idea's, I dread to imagine whats going on in your head
Not that it would have worried me of course.
Jul 26th 2012 | 2:46 am
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Do you know what the communication network was like back then?
There would have been complete ignorance of the situation in the North, it's not as if Franco publicised it. And anyway most Northerners were relatively wealther i.e. they had basic food to feed themselves, not actually any money
The only way South out of Asturias until the 50s was by donkey over the mountains!
There would have been complete ignorance of the situation in the North, it's not as if Franco publicised it. And anyway most Northerners were relatively wealther i.e. they had basic food to feed themselves, not actually any money
The only way South out of Asturias until the 50s was by donkey over the mountains!
