want to move to spain
#16
Not my normal stomping grounds, but a few years ago we visited the market by the bullring near Puerto Banus, and the picture that sticks in my mind is a Brit sat on the floor doing crochet. She had some finished articles around her, and despite passing her several times, I never saw anyone show the slightest interest in her products. That was my thought as well, living the dream. 

Why do you bother posting here if you hate Spain and the Brits living here so much ?
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I must buy you an abacas to carry round, it might help with your counting. 
I go there every week, the figure is probably nearer 20 including the Germans and Eastern Europeans that speak english out of 300-400 stalls, the rest are Morros, Spanish and pikey fruit sellers and looky looky men with handbags.

I go there every week, the figure is probably nearer 20 including the Germans and Eastern Europeans that speak english out of 300-400 stalls, the rest are Morros, Spanish and pikey fruit sellers and looky looky men with handbags.

#18
I've just been looking at the In-madrid magazine - you can find it on-line at http://www.in-madrid.com/ The normal Irish pub advertisers are in there - O'Neills, The Irish Rover, Dubliners etc., so it seems that the big city trade is pretty much as it was. Whether or not that means they will have vacancies is another matter. At one time they used to have expats working behind the bar, but I wonder if that is still the case - I'm visiting soon so may get a chance to pop in one. Anyway, perhaps it's a waste of time talking about the big cities like Madrid or Barcelona (although that's where the jobs are). You would need fluent Spanish (and Catalan in Barcelona) to get a job there I suspect. As for seeking a management role - again I think you will have to reconsider your options. A large proportion of bars and restaurants you come across will be owned and run by families (sometimes Chinese families nowadays). I doubt they'd be looking to put managers in place - you'd really need to have capital to start your own place. Or you could take on a franchise with the likes of Canas y Tapas or 100 Montaditos (who are expanding heavily both inside and outside Spain). But again you'll need fluent Spanish, the business knowledge to convince the companies to take you on, and a very large fighting fund to invest with (such a size many of us could retire on it !!!) . Lastly, I suspect you don't realise that there will be differences in working in bars in Spain. For instance, do you know how to slice a jamon, or which glass to serve cafe con hielo?
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I must buy you an abacas to carry round, it might help with your counting. 
I go there every week, the figure is probably nearer 20 including the Germans and Eastern Europeans that speak english out of 300-400 stalls, the rest are Morros, Spanish and pikey fruit sellers and looky looky men with handbags.

I go there every week, the figure is probably nearer 20 including the Germans and Eastern Europeans that speak english out of 300-400 stalls, the rest are Morros, Spanish and pikey fruit sellers and looky looky men with handbags.

If there aren't many Brits there anymore perhaps they have left? They would have been lucky to earn 5 euro a day. I defer to your knowledge though if you go every week......are you mad

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Must have suddenly changed, infact it was the British who started it off. Probably should have posted it on the ashamed to be british thread!! I called with a Norwegian friend and she thought it was hilarious...all those Brits selling as she described, stuff they would put in the bin. Actually, I did feel a bit ashamed.
If there aren't many Brits there anymore perhaps they have left? They would have been lucky to earn 5 euro a day. I defer to your knowledge though if you go every week......are you mad

If there aren't many Brits there anymore perhaps they have left? They would have been lucky to earn 5 euro a day. I defer to your knowledge though if you go every week......are you mad


Besides that, jdr's not mad: being an advocate of rastrillos, car boots and even picking up stuff from beside the basura, I'd rather be someone not ashamed to recycle something perfectly serviceable (thus sensibly conserving my OH's hard-earned and not inconsiderable stash) than one of those prepared to provide children with an example of the throwaway society.
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Oi.... Embarrassed by the Brits! Get it right!
Besides that, jdr's not mad: being an advocate of rastrillos, car boots and even picking up stuff from beside the basura, I'd rather be someone not ashamed to recycle something perfectly serviceable (thus sensibly conserving my OH's hard-earned and not inconsiderable stash) than one of those prepared to provide children with an example of the throwaway society.
Besides that, jdr's not mad: being an advocate of rastrillos, car boots and even picking up stuff from beside the basura, I'd rather be someone not ashamed to recycle something perfectly serviceable (thus sensibly conserving my OH's hard-earned and not inconsiderable stash) than one of those prepared to provide children with an example of the throwaway society.
one particular piece is so huge that IF we ever left Spain I'd probably sell it on myself
I don't throw away old clothes - if they are in good condition I pass them to the charity shop - in leaner times I have had them sell things on a commission basis so that I get something back, not so lean times, they get the full sale price
my girls recently clubbed together & bought Guitar Hero & other games for the x-box - they were unused xmas pressies for a boy at school - he got a fair bit of cash & they got a real bargain
we have a facebook school book exchange - it encourages the kids to look after their books & saves money (they cost about 30 euros each & they need about 10 per child). Those who can afford to just donate them, some sell them on for a few euros each.
I'm with you Fiona - we should encourage recycling & swapping/sharing - it really is too much of a throwaway gimme gimme society - perhaps some good will come out of this recession if it teaches our children the value of money
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Lynnxa you haven't seen Fuengirola boot sale. What you are refering to has no resemblance, completely different.
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Oi.... Embarrassed by the Brits! Get it right!
Besides that, jdr's not mad: being an advocate of rastrillos, car boots and even picking up stuff from beside the basura, I'd rather be someone not ashamed to recycle something perfectly serviceable (thus sensibly conserving my OH's hard-earned and not inconsiderable stash) than one of those prepared to provide children with an example of the throwaway society.
Besides that, jdr's not mad: being an advocate of rastrillos, car boots and even picking up stuff from beside the basura, I'd rather be someone not ashamed to recycle something perfectly serviceable (thus sensibly conserving my OH's hard-earned and not inconsiderable stash) than one of those prepared to provide children with an example of the throwaway society.
No good having a stash of cash and living like the bottom of society.
#24
I will take some pics on Saturday.
I have bought 80€ shirts for a €, 60€ shorts for a € and loads of other bargains there, also a 300€ suit from a top Spanish tailors in Cudeca.
Must be the war baby in me, where we had to share our rations.
I have bought 80€ shirts for a €, 60€ shorts for a € and loads of other bargains there, also a 300€ suit from a top Spanish tailors in Cudeca.
Must be the war baby in me, where we had to share our rations.
#25
Even in places like St Johns Wood and Richmond, you can find car boot sales. I rarely go to one myself, but I can see the appeal.
#26
I would say, however, that 2nd hand shops/& so on are far removed from the rastro at Fuengirola - assuming it's the one on the feria ground, near the overhead rail line. Doesn't mean you can't get some reasonable stuff if you have your thinking head on, though. About three or four years ago I bought a Tonka truck there for €4 which is still proving what tonka have always said about their brand!!!!
#28
I'm not ashamed to say that I've just bought some gorgeous second hand furniture from a few people returning to the UK - absolute bargains for me & better they make something for the stuff than just dump it or spend more than they can afford shipping it back
one particular piece is so huge that IF we ever left Spain I'd probably sell it on myself
I don't throw away old clothes - if they are in good condition I pass them to the charity shop - in leaner times I have had them sell things on a commission basis so that I get something back, not so lean times, they get the full sale price
my girls recently clubbed together & bought Guitar Hero & other games for the x-box - they were unused xmas pressies for a boy at school - he got a fair bit of cash & they got a real bargain
we have a facebook school book exchange - it encourages the kids to look after their books & saves money (they cost about 30 euros each & they need about 10 per child). Those who can afford to just donate them, some sell them on for a few euros each.
I'm with you Fiona - we should encourage recycling & swapping/sharing - it really is too much of a throwaway gimme gimme society - perhaps some good will come out of this recession if it teaches our children the value of money
one particular piece is so huge that IF we ever left Spain I'd probably sell it on myself
I don't throw away old clothes - if they are in good condition I pass them to the charity shop - in leaner times I have had them sell things on a commission basis so that I get something back, not so lean times, they get the full sale price
my girls recently clubbed together & bought Guitar Hero & other games for the x-box - they were unused xmas pressies for a boy at school - he got a fair bit of cash & they got a real bargain
we have a facebook school book exchange - it encourages the kids to look after their books & saves money (they cost about 30 euros each & they need about 10 per child). Those who can afford to just donate them, some sell them on for a few euros each.
I'm with you Fiona - we should encourage recycling & swapping/sharing - it really is too much of a throwaway gimme gimme society - perhaps some good will come out of this recession if it teaches our children the value of money
Regarding clothes we always put them into the re-cycling bin for others. Have given away tons of stuff and will again when it is cooler and I can face sorting things out. Will never throw things away unless it is broken or of no use to anyone.
Rosemary
#29
Not my normal stomping grounds, but a few years ago we visited the market by the bullring near Puerto Banus, and the picture that sticks in my mind is a Brit sat on the floor doing crochet. She had some finished articles around her, and despite passing her several times, I never saw anyone show the slightest interest in her products. That was my thought as well, living the dream. 

Graham
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Must have suddenly changed, infact it was the British who started it off. Probably should have posted it on the ashamed to be british thread!! I called with a Norwegian friend and she thought it was hilarious...all those Brits selling as she described, stuff they would put in the bin. Actually, I did feel a bit ashamed.
If there aren't many Brits there anymore perhaps they have left? They would have been lucky to earn 5 euro a day. I defer to your knowledge though if you go every week......are you mad

If there aren't many Brits there anymore perhaps they have left? They would have been lucky to earn 5 euro a day. I defer to your knowledge though if you go every week......are you mad


To the OP, I really do not think you stand a cat-in-hell's chance of getting what you want in the present economic climate. Good luck anyway.
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