want to move to spain
 

Hi I'm young male looking for bar management position in Spain preferably with a person looking to or has just opened a bar I will bring with me a desire to succeed new ideas a niche market that I believe will make the business stand out from the rest but appeal to all nationality. Please contact me with any opportunities

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Perhaps you could give potential employers here a little more information about yourself, such at age and previous experience.

While I don't want to appear to be negative, there are literally thousands of people looking for that kind of work here in Spain, if you want to get noticed your CV needs to make you stand out from the crowd!

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Very good point my only problem is putting too much detail up. So my cv is available upon request. I'm 25 been working in bars for the past 5years and although I may not have that many years experience I'm very confident of what I have to give to any prospective employer. My reason for wanting to do this in Spain is that I believe there is a niche market to take advantage of and my main goal is to tap into this. I currently live in London and I have become disillusioned by how expensive it is here I am currently working to live every day.

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have you tried to google for employment at xxxxxx or barwork at xxxxxx
or hotel work at xxxxxxxx ??

you may find some things there, otherwise try googling English papers in Spain and see the small ads there

with 20% and rising amongst Spaniards in the 18-35 age group, as well as people from Eastern and Central Europe moving in you will find the competition fierce.

oh and although it is sunny most of the time, you will find that alot of the bars are seasonal and are closing or reducing hours to cover the reduction in people on holiday.

Spain is a big place, larger than the Uk so you have many places to choose from.

good luck, you will need it - especially if you can't speak Spanish

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Couple of months ago, 25's and under, unemployment was 46%, 49% for men, I doubt it has gone down.
http://www.datosmacro.com/paro/espan...-25&sc=LAB-25-

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Just a point about the "niche market", that is usually decided before the place is opened, because the location, decor, prospective clients ect is all done in the planning stage.

Changing from one type of establishment to another is a big risk, it would also be a place that is not doing so great (so employing a manager would be out of the question), because there would be no need for great change otherwise.

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You may not want to hear this but the short answer is NO, I am the optimist and always say "never say never" but to come out here on a wing and a pray at the end of the season looking for a position that many other people are qualified to do is a huge risk. Spain is still very much a who you know country not what you know and to a great extent I have found that it follows through with employees, many of the bars are family run with 3 generations involved in some way.

The couple that come out here to live the dream and run a bar do so together as they can not afford to pay someone to do it as there is just not the footfall, the flexibility and with the local police, town hall and the odd neighbour trying to put you out of business breathing down your neck the last thing you want to do is be paying someone a wage.

Good luck with your quest, try saving up and coming out for an extended holiday and doing some leg work, you may just be lucky but do not bank on getting work just enjoy the holiday and any work is a bonus.

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get up in the morning, learn something new, go to bed feeling the day has been worth it and have learnt something

thanks
even if it is worse than most people have been saying

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Very sensible post, a touch of reality. :thumbup:

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during the skype call with the BH this evening she told me the bar round the corner, run by nice Spanish lady with very good English, years of experience in hotel and catering in Malaga, very confident, has put up the shutters on her bar after less than a year.

I know it could be a difficult area at this time because of the tram works blocking trade but if the Spanish with experience can't make it work then what chance has a guiri

rgds

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Have recently returned home after a short break at our house in Spain.
Got dragged to a rastro and was surprised by the number of pitchs run by ex-pats selling any and everthing.
Hardly living the life and shows how difficult things can get for some in Spain.
Look before you leap.
Also whilst Spain may be cheaper than Uk, the gap is not that wide and salaries are less.

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The car boot in Fuengirola has at least 50 ex-pats with stalls...living the dreem;)

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Not my normal stomping grounds, but a few years ago we visited the market by the bullring near Puerto Banus, and the picture that sticks in my mind is a Brit sat on the floor doing crochet. She had some finished articles around her, and despite passing her several times, I never saw anyone show the slightest interest in her products. That was my thought as well, living the dream. :confused:

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I must buy you an abacas to carry round, it might help with your counting. :D
I go there every week, the figure is probably nearer 20 including the Germans and Eastern Europeans that speak english out of 300-400 stalls, the rest are Morros, Spanish and pikey fruit sellers and looky looky men with handbags. :rofl: