UK Leaving the EU
Jan 17th 2014 | 9:30 pm
#106
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Re: UK Leaving the EU
Jan 17th 2014 | 9:50 pm
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Jan 17th 2014 | 11:09 pm
#108
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Re: UK Leaving the EU
It's a strange phenomenon, each younger generation correcting the sillier aspects of the outgoing elders. I now belong to the latter, but my lot achieved quite a lot.
We cured the widespread racism when we reached school age and made friends with our black neighbours. We eventually succeeded in voting in the first black president of the US – if you consider that the last black man was lynched in Georgia as recently as in 1956, then that's quite an achievement.
My generation stopped the Vietnam war, one of the last attempts to impose the US will on the poor peasants of the 'communist' East.
To get back to the subject under discussion, our young generation will soon dislodge the creaking ancients still fighting last centuries wars. They won't vote to leave theEU, they want the freedom to travel the world, not to be stuck on a small island with a load of toothless ancients rattling their sabres.
We cured the widespread racism when we reached school age and made friends with our black neighbours. We eventually succeeded in voting in the first black president of the US – if you consider that the last black man was lynched in Georgia as recently as in 1956, then that's quite an achievement.
My generation stopped the Vietnam war, one of the last attempts to impose the US will on the poor peasants of the 'communist' East.
To get back to the subject under discussion, our young generation will soon dislodge the creaking ancients still fighting last centuries wars. They won't vote to leave theEU, they want the freedom to travel the world, not to be stuck on a small island with a load of toothless ancients rattling their sabres.
Our time is over we should stop trying to turn the world back to when we thought it was a better place.
Jan 17th 2014 | 11:14 pm
#109
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Re: UK Leaving the EU
Brits have been traveling the World for hundreds of years before the EU was ever dreamed up and will be doing the same for hundreds of years afterwards when it's looked back upon for the abominable failure it eventually turned out to be.
Jan 17th 2014 | 11:44 pm
#110
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Re: UK Leaving the EU
What the people who want to leave the EU don't seem to grasp is the simple fact that the EU will stop their current freedom of movement. They will need a visa even for a short stay on the Spanish Costas.
And the common market and some old free trade agreement has been dead for half a century.
It's easy enough to put it to the test - travel to Geneva and tell the border security you've come to Switzerland to buy a little bar on the shores of the big lake. You'll want to arrive with a bail bond.
And the common market and some old free trade agreement has been dead for half a century.
It's easy enough to put it to the test - travel to Geneva and tell the border security you've come to Switzerland to buy a little bar on the shores of the big lake. You'll want to arrive with a bail bond.
Jan 18th 2014 | 12:03 am
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Jan 18th 2014 | 12:07 am
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Re: UK Leaving the EU
I must agree not good for EU countries that have large tourist trade to start imposing visa restrictions. Time will tell what the outcome will be, but for sure there is a need for change and I Dont think it is just the UK that thinks that.
Jan 18th 2014 | 1:03 am
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Re: UK Leaving the EU
I can't see any reason that they would impose restrictions, countries like Norway have visa free agreements with loads of countries apart from Schengen, why would Spain want to deter tourists?
Jan 18th 2014 | 1:13 am
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Re: UK Leaving the EU
Why would that be. We started our European travels in 1972 when Franco was still in power and we visited Ibiza. No visa necessary wherever we went including the USA but our last visit there was just after 9/11and I do think that has been changed now.
Jan 18th 2014 | 2:33 am
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Jan 18th 2014 | 2:34 am
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Re: UK Leaving the EU
As for the US visa comment, that's a bit misleading. As a British citizen, you can visit the US under the visa waiver program - but you have to qualifiy for ESTA (and get pre-approval, you can't just show up on US soil and expect to get in). If you want to stay for longer than 90 days there is a set of some of the most restrictive visa requirements in the world to get through, for which most people will never qualify. And you can also lose the right to use the visa waiver and have to go through the visitor visa process.
Jan 18th 2014 | 2:36 am
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Re: UK Leaving the EU
Jan 18th 2014 | 2:51 am
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Re: UK Leaving the EU
I reckon that Spain would resurrect the inquisition for British visitors to Spain. They would be confined in buildings right on the edge of cliffs, with the only exits being over the cliff edges. They would then be played Julio Iglesias recordings until they could stand it no longer. 
Jan 18th 2014 | 2:56 am
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Re: UK Leaving the EU
I reckon that Spain would resurrect the inquisition for British visitors to Spain. They would be confined in buildings right on the edge of cliffs, with the only exits being over the cliff edges. They would then be played Julio Iglesias recordings until they could stand it no longer.
