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Old May 1st 2012, 9:42 am
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Originally Posted by John & Kath
Funny sight yesterday, but sad, the bus stop paypoint at the border post was absolutely mobbed by people trying pay at about 11.00. A typical Spanish queue at a bus stop a true mob complete families crowding in. My guess would be around 50 people. It is even more sad that had they known there is probably no need to buy a ticket anyway since friends with Spanish registered motors who have popped into the post office to pay after the trip have been told not to bother since the system cannot read foreign plates. Of course that may not be true but who knows it is a shambles!

Returning later around 15.00 nobody at the paypoint but I must say I had enjoyed an excellent lunch at "O Tapas" restaraunt a full 4 course +drink +carnation cocktail+digestive and my favorite skewer of huge gambas in garlic butter as the main course "brilliant". Long may the trip to Monte Gordo remain toll free!

PS I missed the punchline €10
I think they missed the point that for foreign registered car plates there is NO POST PAY system.

As for the rest,yum! But, what is a carnation cocktail please?
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Originally Posted by Dave Smith
I'm flying into Faro tomorrow for 2 weeks. Can you get a transponder at the airport ?. I asked the hire company if they provide, they said no and advised me to get it from the Post Office. Can anyone give advice on the best way to resolve this apart from not using the A22.
I see you are in Portugal by now. You can rent a transponder, as MikeJ mentions, but remember you'll have to return it.*

It's time again to have a read of the Portagens page of the Portuguese Post Office website. It's in english now.

Here's a useful chart (Note 2 pages. Page 1=Portuguese registered vehicles. Page 2=Foreign registered vehicles.)

http://www.ctt.pt/fectt/export/downl...uick_Guide.pdf

* Hypothetical question(s): If they should opt for the prepaid anonymous route, I wonder how many people have kept the transponder thinking they could return it/recharge it on next visit? (Is there a shortage of transponders?)
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Just out of interest - does anyone know if the gantry between Olhao and Faro going westbound is before or after the Service Area? ie if you are going back to the airport and are returning the transponder, will that journey have been clocked (if the gantry is before but not after - there are no further gantries before the airport).-
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Originally Posted by MikeJ
Just out of interest - does anyone know if the gantry between Olhao and Faro going westbound is before or after the Service Area? ie if you are going back to the airport and are returning the transponder, will that journey have been clocked (if the gantry is before but not after - there are no further gantries before the airport).-
http://www.theportugalnews.com/cgi-bin/a22_tolls.html

This link has a map at the bottom of the page that explains all.
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Originally Posted by Carol&John
I think they missed the point that for foreign registered car plates there is NO POST PAY system.

As for the rest,yum! But, what is a carnation cocktail please?
Don't know but it was the 30th anniversary of the carnation revolution in Portugal and between main and desert we were offered a sorbet sort of drink which was white with lots of streaks of pink in it. I don't think it was very alcoholic at least I hope not since I had had my beer and they brought the customary almond flavored digestive to finish before I drove home.

With regard to no post pay does that mean that they will chase up the offence together with interest and fines? That was not what the post office seemed to be saying!
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Originally Posted by Carol&John
I see you are in Portugal by now. You can rent a transponder, as MikeJ mentions, but remember you'll have to return it.*

It's time again to have a read of the Portagens page of the Portuguese Post Office website. It's in english now.

Here's a useful chart (Note 2 pages. Page 1=Portuguese registered vehicles. Page 2=Foreign registered vehicles.)

http://www.ctt.pt/fectt/export/downl...uick_Guide.pdf

* Hypothetical question(s): If they should opt for the prepaid anonymous route, I wonder how many people have kept the transponder thinking they could return it/recharge it on next visit? (Is there a shortage of transponders?)
We hired one last semester and were told you could not reactivate it after the 90 days were up you had to return it. Odd since I am sure they do not throw them away and they return your €27 if it is in good condition. So next time you have to go through the whole process again and they take another €27 deposit. You are charged €6 euro for the first weeks hire and €1.50 for each week after that. Mind you they did take our REG and a credit card from our Spanish bank so we were linked to the system. I asked about an anonymous one but they said they did not do that one at the Via Verde shop in Tavira (now gone). There was a shortage of transponder around Christmas but I don't think there is now.
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Originally Posted by MikeJ
Just out of interest - does anyone know if the gantry between Olhao and Faro going westbound is before or after the Service Area? ie if you are going back to the airport and are returning the transponder, will that journey have been clocked (if the gantry is before but not after - there are no further gantries before the airport).-
If my memory is functioning today it is after but before the Sao Bras exit after that it is free to the one the other side of the airport link so no gantries on that stretch.
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Originally Posted by Graham G
http://www.theportugalnews.com/cgi-bin/a22_tolls.html

This link has a map at the bottom of the page that explains all.
Actually it doesn't answer the question of where the gantry is in relationship to the Service Area - which is quite important if you are travelling back to Faro from Spain as you could end up with an unpaid toll if it is after you have returned your transponder.
BTW - I think the map I posted is better as it shows the untolled bits as well
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Originally Posted by John & Kath
Don't know but it was the 30th anniversary of the carnation revolution in Portugal and between main and desert we were offered a sorbet sort of drink which was white with lots of streaks of pink in it. I don't think it was very alcoholic at least I hope not since I had had my beer and they brought the customary almond flavored digestive to finish before I drove home.

With regard to no post pay does that mean that they will chase up the offence together with interest and fines? That was not what the post office seemed to be saying!
As far as we know foreign reg plates cannot be read so if that is the case there is no way they can chase up the offence. There was an article in the Portugal news to this effect at the begining of April. Regards Bryony
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Originally Posted by MikeCol
As far as we know foreign reg plates cannot be read so if that is the case there is no way they can chase up the offence. There was an article in the Portugal news to this effect at the begining of April. Regards Bryony
You may well be right, Bryony, but I would be very wary about assuming this. Do you think that the local Spanish would queue up and pay if there was the remotest chance that they don't have to? And they would know if anyone would.
From my previous life/career I know that it is a trivial amendment to get ANPR systems technically to read legible numbers from any plate. Whether the Portuguese have got the adminstrative systems to pursue the debt is another issue but they are supported by EU legislation and if the don't yet they will as soon as they see how much money they are leaking and it becomes cost effective.
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Hi All, just wanted to ask a quick question:

Would I be correct in assuming the toll charge from Faro Junction 13 or 14 to Ayamonte would be a deduction of 2.30 Euros for a car?

OR is it 5.00 Euros being made up of the three costs showing for gantries 8, 9 and 10? Thereby making it 10 Euros for a return trip to the airport.

I'm certain this has been answered in the past but for the life of me can't find it. Sorry.

BTW, thanks one and all for all the ongoing information and updates on the charges. Much appreciated.

Believe I've found the answers around €10.60 for return journey.

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Hi All, just wanted to ask a quick question:

Would I be correct in assuming the toll charge from Faro Junction 13 or 14 to Ayamonte would be a deduction of 2.30 Euros for a car?

OR is it 5.00 Euros being made up of the three costs showing for gantries 8, 9 and 10? Thereby making it 10 Euros for a return trip to the airport.

I'm certain this has been answered in the past but for the life of me can't find it. Sorry.

BTW, thanks one and all for all the ongoing information and updates on the charges. Much appreciated.

Believe I've found the answers around €10.60 for return journey.
Hi, our hire car company charged us 5.31 euros from Faro to Spain and the same on the way back. Basically they paid it for us and charged our credit card.
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Originally Posted by JT01
Hi All, just wanted to ask a quick question:

Would I be correct in assuming the toll charge from Faro Junction 13 or 14 to Ayamonte would be a deduction of 2.30 Euros for a car?

OR is it 5.00 Euros being made up of the three costs showing for gantries 8, 9 and 10? Thereby making it 10 Euros for a return trip to the airport.

I'm certain this has been answered in the past but for the life of me can't find it. Sorry.

BTW, thanks one and all for all the ongoing information and updates on the charges. Much appreciated.

Believe I've found the answers around €10.60 for return journey.
Exactly what we paid at the Post Office in VRSA
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Hi,

Are there toll charges? How much?

Not been out for a while but arriving Sat so may need loose change?

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Happy to accept charge to help economy...we take advantage of it in so many ways. If I (yes, me) were to travel from Faro Airport to Ayamonte, how much will it cost? I guess, in scheme of things, not so punative?

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