Yep you fail to see at all, Your forum name says it all doesn't it.

Lets put it another way then- if the airlines decided not to pick on fat people, but pick those with the name me me. Would you then agree that it would be ok, because they are not picking on the norm?

How would you feel if that were the case? You paying vast amounts of extra airfare based on your name while every other 'normal' person was ok.

Discrimination comes in all forms black white, gay, lesbian, tall, short, fat, thin. By putting forth your argument you are agreeing with those who wish to fulfil that discrimination.

Bertie Bassett was correct in his assumptions.

If I told you that MIMI is a shortened form of a name (Mercedes) given to me by my Spanish parents and that when I joined BE the names Mimi, Meme were already takem, so I decided that I wanted a name that was the nearest to my own, I could find and so chose me me, I bet you would feel a right idiot wouldn´t you?

I have not made any personal remarks to you, I have only stated that when anyone is out of the range of "standard" they always end up paying hard cash to make life more comfortbale and easier for themselves, where all your assumptions and insults have come from I don´t know.

After all it is not me who is thinking of charging more for bigger seats, and as I also pointed out that is the way the world of business is run, like it or not it is a fact of life.

So maybe you should look to your own posting style, before jumping on me me.

Time you grew up, methinks. You sound like an adolescent school kid.

Thank you

If aircraft seats all had vertical partitions between them then "wider" people wouldn't be able to flow over the arm rest and encroach into their neighbour's space.
If "wider" people found that they couldn't comfortably sit in these types of seats because they were too squashed in then they could opt for an "extra-wide" seat, in the same way that very tall people can opt for an "extra-legroom" seat.

As has been said already, people that don't fit the standard mold just have to pay that bit extra.

Makes sense to me.

I can agree with that but its not a bit extra, it's a lot extra.

E.G.worked out for a flight next week on BA Gib to LHR

Cattle class= £0.485 per squ inch of floor space

Businessclass = £1.465 per sq inch of floor space

Even if you take into account the empty seat in the middle of a row of 3 it is still about £1 a sq inch

Please tell me where you can opt for "extra-wide" seat in short haul or economy class? (not 2x seats) It's not just a question of paying a little extra it's of being prevented from flying at all.

Nice bit of maths there Fred & hits the nail on the head.

BTW i'm a skinny bugger and find any aircraft seat (cattle class) uncomfortable.

[QUOTE=billgates;10985676
If "wider" people found that they couldn't comfortably sit in these types of seats because they were too squashed in then they could opt for an "extra-wide" seat, in the same way that very tall people can opt for an "extra-legroom" seat.

As has been said already, people that don't fit the standard mold just have to pay that bit extra.

Makes sense to me.[/QUOTE]

Makes sense to me too. It has nothing to do with (real) discrimination as some posters appear to be suggesting.

The discrimination is that the extra cost is not in proportion to the extra space purchased.

The thread is about people who MAY have to pay for a larger seat, or be charged for being heavier than the "norm".

Notbody is talking about preventing heavier people from flying or eliminating them.

For heavens sake charging extra has even been compared to the third Reich.

And accustions of fascism are being thrown around willy nilly.

Cattle class and business class have a lot more differences than the seat size, and so it is not a comparision.

Yes the few times I have flown business class I was surprised at the very good food. I had always thought it impossible to make good food on a plane, which is why it is so terrible in economy or on the cheap airlines, but no, quite simply they serve sh*t to the masses and cram them in ten to the dozen, like slaves on galleys. It is a disgrace

Flying is unpleasant enough, I certainly would pay extra for a little bit more humane conditions, but not 3-5 times extra by going business class

The differences are very few, however it is the only way someone of larger build ( not necessarily fat ) can purchase extra space regardless of wether or not they want to take advantage of the other perks.

Most people in business class are not extra tall or overwieght, they are paying for extras to make the journey more comfortable.

So if due to ones weight or size, a pricier alternative has to be paid for, then that is not discrimination, at all.

It is simply the way of the world.

To try and explain, I will use the example of a friend of mine who went on a cruise, her and hubby booked the cheapest inside cabin.

After the first night, she was frantic, and panicky because she could not stand the closed in feeling.

They asked if they could be moved to a cabin with a window, there were non available, but there was a balcony suite. Which cost over double the price, which could be said it was a lot to pay for a balcony that they did not want, all they wanted was a bit of daylight to stop the claustraphobic feeling.


They took that, and enjoyed the cruise, of course it made a large dent in their finances, but they paid for their own comfort.

To say that bigger people are being discriminated against because they may have to pay extra for bigger seating, is way off the mark.

Seating on an aircraft was designed for max profit and a standardish shape and weight of passenger, as are the cabins on a cruise ship.

If for any reason the passengers, want/need or simply fancy more, then they pay for it.

What is the problem with that?