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Nice to see that the pressure is still on and if anything building up even more on the Murdochs.

They were requested to appear at a hearing of MPs and refused, so they have now been served a summons !

Investigations now beginning in Australia as well as the UK and USA.

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Ohhhhh. Happy days are here again, the sky is always blue again....

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Rupe says No,
Son says Yes but not on the date advised,
Beki says Yes

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Just thinking, I wonder when was the last time that Rupert Murdoch had someone tell him what to do and where to go at whatever time of whatever day ?

Bet he can't even remember himself. :thumbsup:

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Watch the gamesmanship and legal jiggery pokery start.

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Yet another shocking revelation.
Back scratching, collusion and conniving at a very high level between police and NoW.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...ld-neil-wallis



Both Murdochs have now accepted they have to appear in front of MPs next week.

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"He was paid £24,000 by Scotland Yard to work as a two-day-a-month consultant."

I wouldn't mind a job like that....

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It gets more horrendous by the day. Funny how one wrinkled old Ozzie kept Maggie in power and got rid of Kinnock with a simple headline in the Sun - 'would the last person to leave the country switch the lights off'.

Then the wrinkled old Ozzie switched his allegiance to the smoothie Blair, and the British public fell for it again.

The wrinkled Ozzie knew that he could never work with dour Brown and single-handedly got us the coalition.

Cameron can't claim credit for what might be his downfall, he jumped on the band-wagon when the British public finally rebelled on hearing that the wrinkled old Ozzie had authorised hacking Millie Dowler and the Sohan girls.

I don't know about hacking the 9/11 victims, but it would run true to form for the wrinkled old Ozzie who wouldn't recognise human decency if it jumped out on him.

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Well it will be ok. when they are all hung drawn and quartered. We can rely on the Mirror the arm of the labour party and the Guardian the spokespiece of Cable and the lib-dems to tell us how to vote. It's gonna be a whole new world, so excited I can't wait for the Circus to begin and watch that Rebecca get her just deserts...all the UK's problems will be solved:rofl: That's what they have been saying this week "A victory for the people":huh:

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Ker-ching!


Things get better for Mad Murdoch!

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I share your cynicism. It seems likely Murdoch will sell his remaining, loss-making newspapers to the pornographer heading the Express group, Desmond something.

I suppose voting for bums and tits is just as valid as voting for Murdoch's stooges.

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think it will be difficult to prove that Rupe authorised it
should be possible to prove from the accounts ledgers that James and Medusa approved payments in various directions

perhaps Mulcaire will start to talk now

And Sir Paul Stephenson has been called into an emergency meeting with Boris to explain what is happening - is this another head on the block ??

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So now Rebekah Brooks, the Murdochs golden girl has resigned.

More trouble down at mill perhaps ?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...ah-Brooks.html

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using ex as a body guard\enforcer based on his TV roles ??

sounds like the family are gathering the wagons in a circle whilst the indians shoot arrows at them
or do we have a mafia style falling out ??

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Quite a few arrows heading back in the other direction now, with the promise of more to follow.
Should be quite an interesting show this next week when the main players arrive on stage.

Rebekah dropped a bit of a clanger last week by admitting the illegal payments to the police.
It was also mentioned this morning that she initially turned down the MPs expenses story, which was then taken up by another rag.
I wonder why ?

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Orpington or Rhode Island Red ?

sounds like she was getting a conscience - not normal to find a journalist who allows moral judgement to get in the way of a good story.

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There seems little doubt that way down the line a few of the sillier journalists will go to prison for a short time, followed by a few of the sillier, low-level police officers - much like the MPs and Lords , those daft enough to make their prosecutions simple matters.

Our press will be less free in the future and PC's will only patrol the streets if accompanied by a lawyer, if at all.

The country will be run by hooded posses.

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Yes that is the main agenda for all the MP's in this. No more stories about MP's on the gravy train, showing their well endowed underpants on the web etc

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes

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WOW! That went round quick eh?

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My attitude is quite simple. Had I broken the law in such a cavalier fashion, I would have been dining off the Queen's porrige supply for quite some time.

I fail to see why others should get a lesser penalty, especially those bent coppers and MPs who were supposed to be in a position of trust.

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I agree. The trouble is that we live in a society where there literally is one law for the rich, and one for the poor.

If we accept that phone hacking or what came before has always existed, why did it suddenly come to all this furore?

Because in 2006, a Royal phone was hacked and the might of the top Yard was unleashed on the perpetrators. The private detective and royal reporter were soon arrested and sent down for a few months.

The Yard were in possession of thousands of other cases were ordinary people had been hacked but didn't bother to pursue those, one law for the rich and one for the poor.

Yates and the other talking heads tried to cover up and were caught out. None of them had the guts to tell the truth: Princes William and Harry are more important than us ordinary folk, we don't count in the bigger way of things.

They missed the name Dowler on their long list of people who had been hacked and are now paying the price.

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I just loved hearing that Rebecca what'sername had admitted at the last investigation that they had paid the police.

No great hurry THERE to do the right thing, eh?

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Not so, the current crop at the top mostly got that high because they were rubber heelers in their careers, specialising in nicking their own. They might struggle with nicking criminals, but they are experts in internal affairs.

A few bent coppers will be in court long before the journalists who paid them. As for the real crooks, the organisers - their chances of being prosecuted are minimal.

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You have to be kidding. I remember someomne saying it was very, very hard to get a bent copper, because they knew how to work the system, and they knew to keep their mouths tight shut.

I once asked a policeman who was an old friend, how important that was. He said that if all crims kept their mouths shut, they would be hard pressed to jail 20% of what they did at present.

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In the 60's, Scotland Yard were found to be controlling the pornography industry and a squeaky clean Commissioner was brought in to clean it up. He succeeded and the lives of Londoners became a bit more fraught.

Squeaky clean boy scouts were brought in to run the police. The villains realised what was happening and bank robberies went through the roof. They were robbing security vans on a daily basis, knowing that their natural enemies, the flying squad, had been disbandoned.

The government had to bring them back and give them special powers. They shot a few robbers and fitted up many more. It worked and the robberies stopped.

Inevitably, a few of those brave men confronting armed robbers helped themselves to
some of the recovered proceeds.

More squeaky clean boy scouts were brought in and the lives of Londoners became even more fraught.

That's the reality, elderly people are confined to their homes after dark and police officers are so influenced by the boy scouts leading them that they have resorted to 'fire brigade' policing.

Like the reporters, most of the MPs, and the rest of the UK, they don't give a *****.

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I remember a report that said this would be hard to do, the ledgers recording the names have the old favourites such as Micky Mouse and Superman and were probably chitties for cash payments, although when paying compensation it was done by cheque.

considering how long the lid has been kept on this over the years, will people now start talking ? I doubt it.!

it may come down to checking out certain people with expensive spending habits, with things like villa in Spain, expensive boat etc

probably be a few more places on the market :thumbdown:

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Looks like our Rupert is a very worried man,
..to such an extent that he is now beginning to grovel. :D
First a personal apology to the Dowler family.
Now huge ads in rival rags saying sorry.

I suppose its quite understandable as he sees his world beginning to collapse around his lugs.
More of his senior management team jumping overboard.
The threat of more disclosures with regard to the Sun in the UK plus the investigation in America.
Also demands that he be stripped of the remainder of his Sat/TV business and consequently the massive profits it generates.

In the States he's desperately trying to convince the Yanks what a fantastic forthright character he is, whilst in the UK he is now regarded as the lowest form of life at the bottom of the pond.

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Does this not worry anybody though? The power that open, free, mass communication can be damaging for any business now. It's fair enough that it seems NoW has been brought to justice here, but think about Rebbeca Brooks in US who was attacked, mistakenly by thousands. It just takes a celebrity endorsement these days to send a business under.

Does it worry your company or you and your own business?

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Not at all, but then I don't bribe coppers, don't hack into people's private messages and so on. Why should anyone be allowed to do that and go on their merry way uncaring.

If the Murdoch empire crashes, I won't be in the slightest bit sorry.

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why should it ??
I\we are not in the business of digging into other people's dirty laundry to find out about their indiscretions or inner thoughts.

There is enough to worry about with the snoops at GCHQ and Menwith looking for terrorists and insurrection without fuelling it ourselves.

I am sure there is more than one person who has been doing the snooping. You will probably find that there are several people doing it along with hacking emails etc.
When is it going to come out that the Murdochs and their close friends have been hacked ?

Mind you it is far better for the health than by the old method - of going through the rubbish bins in the dark of night. :rolleyes:

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Lynch mobs are easily formed and hard to abandon. If I was Rebekah Brooks, I would stay away from places like Hartlepool.

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She's more likely to be mistaken for a witch than a monkey I would have thought.

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I'm not disagreeing with NoW, what they've done is unforgivable and it's unlikely this will affect a small business, unless they've done something terrible. Though, I do think everyone should be entitled to a fair trial.

I love using Twitter, but I'm not sure I agree with it's uses sometimes. Think about the companies that inadvertently advertised with that paper and resulted in being hacked by so-called "cyber warriors". If a paper like NoW, what could be next. Insider trading at another bank, meddling in the government. Spies? Let's be fair, very little behind the scenes in the big corporates and in government would win them the fair play award.

I think journalists should be regulated, that's for sure, though it's funny also to see the Daily Star cleaning up some of NoW's market, by advertising themselves as the "Sunday Newspaper you can trust"! I used to set aside 10 mins each weekend to read their apologies section.

One poor paper gone, a terrible paper takes it's place. Certainly agree on the health issue :)

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The translation of the apology in the newpapers today:

http://c0013864.cdn1.cloudfiles.rack...com/x2_731a58e

PS For the lawyers around...its a joke. It is not mine. In fact freddyflintoff tweeted it!

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Unfortunately for them they commited the cardinal sin of breaking the eleventh commandment.

THOU SHALT NOT BE FOUND OUT.

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The trouble with cynicism, and I'm full of it, is that it can overwhelm you. You end up believing in nothing, and it's not good.

There's nowhere to seek solace, the churches are full of shirt-lifters, and the alternatives are full of nutters.

You could wind up talking to trees, but deep down I don't think that's the solution either.

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Rebekah Brooks has been arrested.........

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Sky TV are doing a series on this story...

The Only Way is Ethics.

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and by appointment

bet if they came round to me for anything it would be without an appointment and just a knock on the door.

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Never a dull moment. :lol:

Being the Sabbath day and all that I thought we might get a little break from it.