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Domino Jul 13th 2011 3:03 am

Re: Phone hacking hypocrisy
 

Originally Posted by jackytoo (Post 9493172)
I have never bought a copy of the News of the World, thought it was a crap paper. This week I realised they also did a lot of good campaigns and exposures which were useful for the general public.

I am not saying that tapping phones is ok. just that all the newspapers use dubious methods...hey they can get someones credit card details within hours. Do you think the Telegraph managed to expose the MP's expenses scandal without resorting to these practices?

Can anyone tell me who else was in the bidding for BSKYB :confused: I have been ignoring stories on it before this week:lol:

perhaps I had better talk to them then, either my cc provider or BT have failed to deliver statement twice in a year.

What happened to the Data Protection Registrar who turned into the Information Commissioner in all this. This is in his court as well. The only thing that seems to miss it is Mulcair's hand written notes.

The Guy Jul 13th 2011 3:09 am

Re: Phone hacking hypocrisy
 

Originally Posted by jackytoo (Post 9493172)
Can anyone tell me who else was in the bidding for BSKYB :confused: I have been ignoring stories on it before this week:lol:

Currently News Corp own 39% of BSkyB.
They also own News International - which is the UK newspaper publishing arm. News Corp wanted to by the remaining shared of BSkyB.
No one else was in the running, and I am sure the 39% News Corp owns would block anyone else taking full ownership. And it has a special place in Rups heart as it was their first "Sky TV" group.


Originally Posted by Domino (Post 9493185)
as not a Sky subscriber I ask is that the same as the Virgin Media shuffle round that changed the levels of subscription whilst reducing the number of channels ? ?You make it sound as if not even Sky knew so there wasnt a press release to that effect[/I]

There will be no reduction in channels. There is no price increase.
They are merging their 6 genres of programmes into just 2.
People may find they get a lot more channels for the price they are paying in the first year. Then the next year they will have to pay for the 2 packs, probably meaning an increase in your sub, and get channels that they dont really want, with no option to opt out of "No kids channels" if you dont want them (if I understand this correctly!)

It was all in the latest Sky magazine, and on their website, and on a lot of internet forums... They have not had a shuffe around of channels for a fair number of years...

rugbymatt Jul 13th 2011 3:18 am

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As I understood it from earlier reports it was always considered a bit of a hostile takeover anyway...

Domino Jul 13th 2011 3:42 am

Re: Phone hacking hypocrisy
 
well at this moment Rupe is buying up company shares to reduce their market volatility.

didn't he hear about Alan Sugar buying up all his company shares and making it private because the shares dropped when Spurs lost a game and caused his name to be mentioned in the press ? ?
(before anyone has a go I know it was more than that but that is a start)

Still he did pay $400mill + for his daughters business a little while ago so there must be some money there........ oh no it wasn't him it was NC that paid for that :frown:

Dick Dasterdly Jul 13th 2011 6:05 am

Re: Phone hacking hypocrisy
 

Originally Posted by Domino (Post 9493070)

What happened to that nice Nick Whatshisname from the lib-dem thingy ? ?

To be fair Nick Clegg was the first to request N.I. to drop their bid altogether.
Millipede and Cameron simply jumped on his wouldbe popularity bandwagon.
I recall Vince Cable declaring open warfare on the Murdochs shortly after gaining office, only to be strangely and quickly moved on to a different dept.

Regarding Sky increasing their already exorbitant prices any further this year, they likely realized it would be self defeating at a time when ppl are feeling the pinch and are moving to other options such as the internet.

Problem is that Sky already control far too much of what comes into our living rooms and the question should now be asked are they fit and proper to have the degree of control they already have.

The number of repeats under the guise of different channels is astronomical and much of the rest is garbage anyway.

The very narrow spectrum of news Sky covers between breaks, which in any event tends to be mirrored exactly by the BBC whose weather forecasts and prog announcements are fixed to coincide with the ads., is pathetic, compared to that in other countries.

I find the Spanish news channels to be far superior in every respect,covering many more issues with opinions from the whole world and his wife.

rugbymatt Jul 13th 2011 6:34 am

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Not looking good for him in the US now, did his news network access 9/11 victims phone records? If they did imagine the reaction to that little bombshell!

Dick Dasterdly Jul 13th 2011 7:32 am

Re: Phone hacking hypocrisy
 

Originally Posted by rugbymatt (Post 9493603)
Not looking good for him in the US now, did his news network access 9/11 victims phone records? If they did imagine the reaction to that little bombshell!

It looks to be pure speculation at present, however if there are more skeletons in the cupboard, I wonder if Murdochs tentacles reach far enough politically and financially in the States in order to keep it under wraps and diffuse what would be a massive bombshell to both the country and his empire.

Maybe democracy isn't completely dead in the UK considering that the two issues which have most outraged the public have at least brought about a fairy rapid and positive response.

bil Jul 13th 2011 7:36 am

Re: Phone hacking hypocrisy
 

Originally Posted by rugbymatt (Post 9493603)
Not looking good for him in the US now, did his news network access 9/11 victims phone records? If they did imagine the reaction to that little bombshell!

Oh please. Please let it be so!

HBG Jul 13th 2011 5:43 pm

Re: Phone hacking hypocrisy
 
This whole, sickening saga of press, politics and police reminds me of a visit to a rescued dogs compound. I was astounded to see a large number of dodgy looking dogs walking around in an ever-moving circle, sniffing each others bums.

jackytoo Jul 13th 2011 9:41 pm

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Longish article her which says more or less the same as Guy posted yesterday.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/ar...-settling.html

Dick Dasterdly Jul 14th 2011 12:26 am

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Nice to see that the pressure is still on and if anything building up even more on the Murdochs.

They were requested to appear at a hearing of MPs and refused, so they have now been served a summons !

Investigations now beginning in Australia as well as the UK and USA.

bil Jul 14th 2011 1:59 am

Re: Phone hacking hypocrisy
 

Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 9494999)
Nice to see that the pressure is still on and if anything building up even more on the Murdochs.

They were requested to appear at a hearing of MPs and refused, so they have now been served a summons !

Investigations now beginning in Australia as well as the UK and USA.



Ohhhhh. Happy days are here again, the sky is always blue again....

Domino Jul 14th 2011 2:06 am

Re: Phone hacking hypocrisy
 

Originally Posted by bil (Post 9495158)
Ohhhhh. Happy days are here again, the sky is always blue again....

Rupe says No,
Son says Yes but not on the date advised,
Beki says Yes

Dick Dasterdly Jul 14th 2011 2:08 am

Re: Phone hacking hypocrisy
 

Originally Posted by bil (Post 9495158)
Ohhhhh. Happy days are here again, the sky is always blue again....

Just thinking, I wonder when was the last time that Rupert Murdoch had someone tell him what to do and where to go at whatever time of whatever day ?

Bet he can't even remember himself. :thumbsup:

bil Jul 14th 2011 2:15 am

Re: Phone hacking hypocrisy
 

Originally Posted by Domino (Post 9495177)
Rupe says No,
Son says Yes but not on the date advised,
Beki says Yes

Watch the gamesmanship and legal jiggery pokery start.


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