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Old Dec 14th 2011 | 10:24 pm
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Originally Posted by Fredbargate
You would think that a university student would have enough common sense to either see he was sold the wrong ticket or at least be fluent enough to explain clearly the problem to the conductor.
What he should have done gone to station staff before boarding the first train and sorted it out. Or paid attention to the screen when he was buying the tickets in the first place!

Regardless of whether he made a mistake or was deliberately avoiding paying for a ticket, he boarded the train at a station where he had the opportunity to purchase a valid ticket and failed to do so. He was in the wrong. Everyone's else's actions, whether right or wrong, would have been avoided had he sorted it out before boarding the FIRST train. Maybe he bought two tickets for the first train for him and a second person to travel?
 
Old Dec 14th 2011 | 10:56 pm
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Originally Posted by Mitzyboy
That would be about typical if he was prosecuted. Some idiot refuses to pay, gets his just deserts, and the good guy gets stuffed

Ah well
He's claiming he was injured. Had I been in the situation the guy was, then in the current climate of suing anyone for anything I just wouldn't have got involved, I think, given the fact that it was filmed and put onto YouTube, then he is very likely to face criminal prosecution for assault, if the lad who was thrown off wants to go that route. It should have been left to the ticket chappie to deal with.
 
Old Dec 14th 2011 | 11:37 pm
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Originally Posted by rugbymatt
Swarthy bastard!
This is clearly a containment tactic for all us swarthy bastards. Keep all the foreigners from other parts of the forum who ask difficult questions in Spain's own little TIO.


Ladies and gentleman, we have been kettled.
 
Old Dec 15th 2011 | 12:09 am
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Originally Posted by Lion in Winter
This is clearly a containment tactic for all us swarthy bastards. Keep all the foreigners from other parts of the forum who ask difficult questions in Spain's own little TIO.


Ladies and gentleman, we have been kettled.
Awwwww ........ sussed
I was actually quite looking forward to the visits, but it's all been a bit of an anticlimax really
 
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One other thing that struck me about the clip - the ticket collector looked a bit old to me to be in a job where he might be called upon to confront potentially yobbish behaviour. How are the poor old sods who might have to carry on doing such jobs until they are 67 in the not too distant future going to cope?
 
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Originally Posted by Lynn R
One other thing that struck me about the clip - the ticket collector looked a bit old to me to be in a job where he might be called upon to confront potentially yobbish behaviour. How are the poor old sods who might have to carry on doing such jobs until they are 67 in the not too distant future going to cope?
Think you can confront yobbish behaviour without resorting to violence and it doesn't depend on age. Somtimes older and wiser does it ay?
 
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Originally Posted by positive pam
Think you can confront yobbish behaviour without resorting to violence and it doesn't depend on age. Somtimes older and wiser does it ay?
I didn't mean that the ticket collector would be the one to resort to violence - do you really think most of the feral chavs he might come up against would respond well to sweet reason? They are more likely to set upon an older, more vulnerable person that a younger, fitter one who might not be such an easy target.
 
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Originally Posted by Lion in Winter
This is clearly a containment tactic for all us swarthy bastards. Keep all the foreigners from other parts of the forum who ask difficult questions in Spain's own little TIO.


Ladies and gentleman, we have been kettled.
They'll be getting their batons out and gently beating us to the ground until we are terminally dead... justifiably of course....
 
Old Dec 15th 2011 | 7:10 am
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Originally Posted by Lynn R
I didn't mean that the ticket collector would be the one to resort to violence - do you really think most of the feral chavs he might come up against would respond well to sweet reason? They are more likely to set upon an older, more vulnerable person that a younger, fitter one who might not be such an easy target.
I understand what you are saying, but I have met some fit older men who could take on possibly more than their younger counterparts. Being young doesn't always mean fit and I have met some young weaklings who couldn't take anyone on.
 
Old Dec 15th 2011 | 11:04 pm
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Originally Posted by mikelincs
He's claiming he was injured. Had I been in the situation the guy was, then in the current climate of suing anyone for anything I just wouldn't have got involved, I think, given the fact that it was filmed and put onto YouTube, then he is very likely to face criminal prosecution for assault, if the lad who was thrown off wants to go that route. It should have been left to the ticket chappie to deal with.
From the clip it didn't appear that the guy used anything more than reasonable force.
He could even have taken it a step further by hanging on to him, calling the cops and claiming citizens arrest.
I doubt he would then have been subject to prosecution, or if he was then the law is an even bigger ass than I thought.
 
Old Dec 16th 2011 | 10:29 pm
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Latest on this seems to imply Trouble for the ticket inspector, and the man who threw the fare dodger off the train. Police are involved, both rail and normal.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...end-court.html
 
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I heard of an even more disturbing incident on the radio this morning where a ticket collector had told two youths to get off a train and one of them had returned and stabbed him (this was in East Tilbury, it said). Bet he would have been glad of a burly passenger to come to his aid, but maybe they were all too scared to intervene after the backlash the Scottish guy got.
 
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Originally Posted by Lynn R
I heard of an even more disturbing incident on the radio this morning where a ticket collector had told two youths to get off a train and one of them had returned and stabbed him (this was in East Tilbury, it said). Bet he would have been glad of a burly passenger to come to his aid, but maybe they were all too scared to intervene after the backlash the Scottish guy got.
Here's the report..

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/ticket-insp...090948214.html
 
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Originally Posted by Lynn R
I heard of an even more disturbing incident on the radio this morning where a ticket collector had told two youths to get off a train and one of them had returned and stabbed him (this was in East Tilbury, it said). Bet he would have been glad of a burly passenger to come to his aid, but maybe they were all too scared to intervene after the backlash the Scottish guy got.
In the back no less what is the world coming to.
 
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Originally Posted by John & Kath
In the back no less what is the world coming to.
Um, I don't think stabbings, in the back or anywhere else, are exactly a modern phenomenon.
 


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