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anonimouse Dec 13th 2011 6:00 am

One for the do gooders to jump on
 
Oh what a nasty nasty man:p

http://news.sky.com/home/strange-news/article/16129110

Fredbargate Dec 13th 2011 7:07 am

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Unfortunately the passenger who quite rightly threw this asshole off the train is likely to get prosecuted

jimenato Dec 13th 2011 9:17 am

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But it doesn't matter because they're all Scotch.

Mitzyboy Dec 13th 2011 11:19 am

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That would be about typical if he was prosecuted. Some idiot refuses to pay, gets his just deserts, and the good guy gets stuffed

Ah well

the troubadour Dec 13th 2011 12:47 pm

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I can't see in the case of ticket avoidance that it has anything to do with a member of the public.
I would have understanding and endorse involvement if the use of bad language or the threat of violence was used and have intervened myself with regards to such matters myself in the past.

moneypenny20 Dec 13th 2011 2:27 pm

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Originally Posted by jimenato (Post 9786789)
But it doesn't matter because they're all Scotch.

How can people be whisky?

Lion in Winter Dec 13th 2011 2:42 pm

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Well let's not jump to conclusions and get all worked up. Some people seem to go very quickly down the road of:

This might happen > This probably will happen > This is going to happen > If it happens it will piss me off > I'm pissed off.

So now people are getting as pissed of as though it had actually happened.

Only problem is, nothing has actually happened at all yet.

It's rather like getting angry with people for things they do in your dreams.


Incidentally - just curious, but why does Spain need its own, private, TIO-type forum, when the rest of us just muck in together in the general TIO? Is it like Business Class or something? Free newspapers and special furniture?

DaveLovesDee Dec 13th 2011 7:46 pm

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Originally Posted by Lion in Winter (Post 9787222)
Incidentally - just curious, but why does Spain need its own, private, TIO-type forum, when the rest of us just muck in together in the general TIO? Is it like Business Class or something? Free newspapers and special furniture?

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery! :thumbsup:

anonimouse Dec 13th 2011 7:52 pm

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I wonder how it would be viewed in this scenario....

the lad who got thrown off the train started walking home or hitch hiking and got hit by a car, or was later attacked ?

jackytoo Dec 13th 2011 8:18 pm

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I am keeping an open mind about this incident. The youth's Father was on radio yesterday afternoon. His version is that he bought 2 single tickets as it is cheaper that way. He made a mistake at the machine and bought 2 in the same direction. He was frustrated because the Guard wouldn't listen to his explanation. Father says they have put in a complaint and can prove he had no intention to defraud as he has 2 tickets bought that day.

I know some are going to say that of course he would say that wouldn't he....perhaps but he sounded plausable:unsure:

Mitzyboy Dec 13th 2011 8:40 pm

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Originally Posted by jackytoo (Post 9787571)
He was frustrated because the Guard wouldn't listen to his explanation.

Train guards can be a little bolshy :).

I got to Bristol for a train to Birmingham, but early. I asked the guard on the platform if it was OK if I got on the earlier train and he said yes, no problem. Just before (I think) Cheltenham a guard came round checking tickets, and told me I should have been on the next train, an hour later. Although the train was quite empty and I had a bike strapped up in the luggage section, she demanded that I get off at the next station and wait for the next train.

johnnyone Dec 13th 2011 9:01 pm

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Originally Posted by Mitzyboy (Post 9787599)
Train guards can be a little bolshy :).

I got to Bristol for a train to Birmingham, but early. I asked the guard on the platform if it was OK if I got on the earlier train and he said yes, no problem. Just before (I think) Cheltenham a guard came round checking tickets, and told me I should have been on the next train, an hour later. Although the train was quite empty and I had a bike strapped up in the luggage section, she demanded that I get off at the next station and wait for the next train.

Happened to me at Edinburgh. At least EJ let you get an earlier flight if there is space.

rugbymatt Dec 13th 2011 10:09 pm

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What the xxxx is going on in here like?

bxpuser24710519 Dec 13th 2011 10:38 pm

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Originally Posted by the troubadour (Post 9787057)
I can't see in the case of ticket avoidance that it has anything to do with a member of the public.
I would have understanding and endorse involvement if the use of bad language or the threat of violence was used and have intervened myself with regards to such matters myself in the past.

I would be hacked off if people were on the train and had not paid !


Originally Posted by moneypenny20 (Post 9787197)
How can people be whisky?


I notice that mistake a lot and seldom comment as usually all you get back is abuse.

The attitude of both ticket man and the youth leave a lot to be desired and the whole scenario could have been dealt with better by both.

DaveLovesDee Dec 13th 2011 10:49 pm

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Originally Posted by The Capitans Wench (Post 9787777)
I would be hacked off if people were on the train and had not paid !

If the fare dodger had been allowed to stay on the train, Transport Police could have met the train at the next station. I don't like people who try to avoid paying as well, but unless I'm employed to deal with it then I'm not covered by law or insurance for my actions.

The big guy can be charged with assault, as he wasn't an employee of the rail company or a Police officer, and therefore wasn't legally acting for the property holder. If the fare dodger or big guy had been injured, who's responsible?

Transport Police are trained and paid to deal with this. Let them deal with it.


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