Originally Posted by sonlymewalter (Post 9804557)

Anti social behaviour in some families has become the norm. You've only got to look at some peoples relationships with their own families, the disrespect they show for their own parents and people in authority. All this crap about *kids* (is 19 a kid:blink:) being innocent bystanders when they should take responsibility for their actions.

Stop making excuses for them and deal with it. Focus on the cause not the effect.

Some families make excuses for their precious kids and this is the result. Then their kids grow up disrespectful and so it goes on. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 9804586)

Problem is now, that so many of the parents and possibly even their parents as well have been brought up with the same disrespectful attitude and none of them or their kids will ever know any better.

I have quite a few teacher friends, not only in the UK and they often say that the parents are every bit as bad as the kids, which leaves them feeling they're fighting a totally lost cause.

Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 9804586)

Problem is now, that so many of the parents and possibly even their parents as well have been brought up with the same disrespectful attitude and none of them or their kids will ever know any better.

I have quite a few teacher friends, not only in the UK and they often say that the parents are every bit as bad as the kids, which leaves them feeling they're fighting a totally lost cause.

Originally Posted by HBG (Post 9800900)

I've got another recent example of what we are discussing, which has caused me no end of problems.

I caught two Spanish kids spraying graffiti on my wall, kids about 14-years old. I went out and asked them to stop but they carried on spraying.

I got hold of one of them, took away his spray can and sprayed it in his face. When they ran away I went home, armed myself with a base ball bat and went round the corner to where they lived.

Luckily for me, they were not Spanish, they are South Americans, part of a large local gang known as Latin Kings, well known to the police.

When the police arrived, they sympathised with me because I was heavily outnumbered and they hated those Latin Kings, and I had got rid of the base ball bat when I heard the sirens.

Unfortunately, it won't stop there. I've got more graffiti on my wall, and the Doberman bit one of them on the leg when they tried to climb into my back garden.

To the point. Can I rely on the law to protect me? Can I f'uck.

Originally Posted by anonimouse (Post 9805394)

Well it has been nice reading your posts

Originally Posted by HBG (Post 9805490)

How nice of you to say so. I've ordered a stab vest from ebay.

Originally Posted by HBG (Post 9805490)

How nice of you to say so. I've ordered a stab vest from ebay.