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fatbrit Dec 19th 2011 7:48 am

Re: One for the do gooders to jump on
 

Originally Posted by mikelincs (Post 9793786)
Latest on this seems to imply Trouble for the ticket inspector, and the man who threw the fare dodger off the train. Police are involved, both rail and normal.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...end-court.html

But nowhere in the article do we find the worth of any of the players' houses. Shoddy work from the DM!

Dick Dasterdly Dec 19th 2011 8:11 am

Re: One for the do gooders to jump on
 
What's the world coming to ?
Cops called out to deal with unruly Cops at a Police Christmas party.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/de...?newsfeed=true

materialcontroller Dec 21st 2011 5:03 am

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...-fife-16288101

Good that they finally decided to charge the guy who threw the fella off the train.

Dick Dasterdly Dec 21st 2011 5:21 am

Re: One for the do gooders to jump on
 

Originally Posted by materialcontroller (Post 9800459)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...-fife-16288101

Good that they finally decided to charge the guy who threw the fella off the train.


Not really.
I would have thought they had much more serious matters to attend to than charging someone who was simply doing a decent public service.

JLFS Dec 21st 2011 5:39 am

Re: One for the do gooders to jump on
 

Originally Posted by materialcontroller (Post 9800459)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...-fife-16288101

Good that they finally decided to charge the guy who threw the fella off the train.

Why is it so good?

materialcontroller Dec 21st 2011 5:41 am

Re: One for the do gooders to jump on
 

Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 9800488)
Not really.
I would have thought they had much more serious matters to attend to than charging someone who was simply doing a decent public service.

Two wrongs don't make a right. I feel it's correct that this guy ought to at least explain himself under the law.

rugbymatt Dec 21st 2011 5:44 am

Re: One for the do gooders to jump on
 

Originally Posted by materialcontroller (Post 9800536)
Two wrongs don't make a right. .

Not always true... just saying.

Mitzyboy Dec 21st 2011 5:50 am

Re: One for the do gooders to jump on
 

Originally Posted by materialcontroller (Post 9800536)
Two wrongs don't make a right. I feel it's correct that this guy ought to at least explain himself under the law.

Yobby gobby kids think they can do anything these days because they think that no one will do anything to stop them.

Here, such a yob decided to swear happily at an older guy, i.e. the ticket collector. A few days later another ticket inspector was stabbed by two youths in what seemed to be a similar confrontation.

Hats off to Mr Pollock. He did what many of us would want to do in such a situation .... but instead we sit back and say nothing. And because of that more Yobs think they can say and do what they want

Dick Dasterdly Dec 21st 2011 5:53 am

Re: One for the do gooders to jump on
 

Originally Posted by Mitzyboy (Post 9800553)
Yobby gobby kids think they can do anything these days because they think that no one will do anything to stop them.

Here, such a yob decided to swear happily at an older guy, i.e. the ticket collector. A few days later another ticket inspector was stabbed by two youths in what seemed to be a similar confrontation.

Hats off to Mr Pollock. He did what many of us would want to do in such a situation .... but instead we sit back and say nothing. And because of that more Yobs think they can say and do what they want

Exactly.
Charging the guy is simply encouraging even more yobish behaviour and worse.
Basic common sense and decency seems to have gone clean out the window.

materialcontroller Dec 21st 2011 5:56 am

Re: One for the do gooders to jump on
 

Originally Posted by Mitzyboy (Post 9800553)
Yobby gobby kids think they can do anything these days because they think that no one will do anything to stop them.

Here, such a yob decided to swear happily at an older guy, i.e. the ticket collector. A few days later another ticket inspector was stabbed by two youths in what seemed to be a similar confrontation.

Hats off to Mr Pollock. He did what many of us would want to do in such a situation .... but instead we sit back and say nothing. And because of that more Yobs think they can say and do what they want

With respect, what I believe is the fundamental flaw with that view is the wholly disproportionate gap between an obnoxious yob swearing (which is basically anti-social behaviour) and somebody else quite happily indulging in a physical confrontation (or to use its technical term - violence).

So the next time I'm travelling on a train, who should I be more afraid of? The mouthy student who's had a bit to drink or the 16 stone hard man with an axe to grind? Which one is more dangerous do you think?

JLFS Dec 21st 2011 5:59 am

Re: One for the do gooders to jump on
 

Originally Posted by materialcontroller (Post 9800536)
Two wrongs don't make a right. I feel it's correct that this guy ought to at least explain himself under the law.

Well, it seems we have more sense in Spain than the UK.

A while back a "customer" started to frequent a local bar, he was well know for his bit of dealing, he did not seem to be doing any harm to the casual observer, maybe he was innocent but the owner did not like him being there, as too many well known druggies we popping in to say hello to him.

The owner wanted him out, so a few of us customers, turfed him out, he proclaimed his innocene to the police who came with him on his return, the police shrugged his shoulders, and later said, it is the best thing to do to stop "trapicheo",and more customers should do it.

JLFS Dec 21st 2011 6:01 am

Re: One for the do gooders to jump on
 

Originally Posted by materialcontroller (Post 9800574)
With respect, what I believe is the fundamental flaw with that view is the wholly disproportionate gap between an obnoxious yob swearing (which is basically anti-social behaviour) and somebody else quite happily indulging in a physical confrontation (or to use its technical term - violence).

So the next time I'm travelling on a train, who should I be more afraid of? The mouthy student who's had a bit to drink or the 16 stone hard man with an axe to grind? Which one is more dangerous do you think?

NEXT

materialcontroller Dec 21st 2011 6:02 am

Re: One for the do gooders to jump on
 

Originally Posted by JLFS (Post 9800583)
Well, it seems we have more sense in Spain than the UK.

A while back a "customer" started to frequent a local bar, he was well know for his bit of dealing, he did not seem to be doing any harm to the casual observer, maybe he was innocent but the owner did not like him being there, as too many well known druggies we popping in to say hello to him.

The owner wanted him out, so a few of us customers, turfed him out, he proclaimed his innocene to the police who came with him on his return, the police shrugged his shoulders, and later said, it is the best thing to do to stop "trapicheo",and more customers should do it.

What I don't understand is why this was your problem to "sort out"?

rugbymatt Dec 21st 2011 6:05 am

Re: One for the do gooders to jump on
 

Originally Posted by materialcontroller (Post 9800589)
What I don't understand is why this was your problem to "sort out"?

Because not everyone in the world has a "Not my fucking problem" attitude, thank god?

materialcontroller Dec 21st 2011 6:08 am

Re: One for the do gooders to jump on
 

Originally Posted by rugbymatt (Post 9800596)
Because not everyone in the world has a "Not my fucking problem" attitude, thank god?

If the guy on the train has acted reasonably he's got nothing to worry about has he? But let's allow the law to decide what's reasonable, and not public opinion.


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