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Old Nov 19th 2022, 9:54 am
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Originally Posted by bobd22
​​​​​​For UK property and council tax I would question this person who says he stops and starts paying when not using it.
Er, but I think that comment was made tongue in cheek? LOL
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Old Nov 19th 2022, 10:11 am
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Originally Posted by EuroTrash
Er, but I think that comment was made tongue in cheek? LOL
Unfortunately the OP didn't realise that and appeared to see it as a credible solution? I admit though I only read the first part of that post so yes I must ensure I read in full before replying lol

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Old Nov 19th 2022, 7:10 pm
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Originally Posted by den morris
UKMS , just as a passing point of interest how much time are you permitted to spend in your property in Spain ?
90 days in 180 ….. Which I’m happy with (right now I don’t come anywhere near that) …. I dont consider I’m being defrauded or that what I pay is illegal, any more than I consider what I payout in tax, council tax and other outgoings in the UK illegal even though I hardly spend any time there.

If my circumstances change and I want more than 90/180 I will deal with it accordingly in line with the visa or residency requirements at the time, in much the same way as any country that I live and work.

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Old Nov 19th 2022, 7:41 pm
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Originally Posted by den morris
UKMS , just as a passing point of interest how much time are you permitted to spend in your property in Spain ?
Isn't your property in Portugal?
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Old Nov 20th 2022, 2:07 am
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Isn't your property in Portugal?
Mine ? …… no
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Old Nov 20th 2022, 12:24 pm
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I think Spain would be an outlier if it did give favourable tax treatment to second homes. France has reductions for' principal residences and no reductions for second homes. I believe Gwynedd in Wales charges 300% council tax on second homes. Looked at that way, 100% for a second home you can stay at for up to half the year, has to be a better deal than 300%, even if you could be there for 100% of the time.
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Old Nov 20th 2022, 1:51 pm
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Originally Posted by den morris
Good morning , just an observation really but I have been considering how the various Schengen governments managed to make legal the fact that a property owning tourist may only spend six months of the year in EU but quite openly defraud us by charging a whole years' council tax ?
Exactly the same can happen to visitors to the UK.
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Old Nov 20th 2022, 2:03 pm
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Originally Posted by den morris
Good morning , just an observation really but I have been considering how the various Schengen governments managed to make legal the fact that a property owning tourist may only spend six months of the year in EU but quite openly defraud us by charging a whole years' council tax ?
This would work out well. The fire brigade and the police will have a list of half payers.
Just make sure your house doesnt get robbed or catch on fire during those months as you have not paid for these services...
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Old Nov 21st 2022, 5:27 am
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Originally Posted by den morris
Good morning , just an observation really but I have been considering how the various Schengen governments managed to make legal the fact that a property owning tourist may only spend six months of the year in EU but quite openly defraud us by charging a whole years' council tax ?
It's not fraud and it's nonsense to call it that, exactly as in UK council tax is a charge on property ownership not occupation and you wouldn't get far asking for a suspension of payment for that just you spent 6 months of the year living in Spain.

You could extend the neive argument to many other services, standing charges for electricity and water for example and wouldn't it be great if you could only pay your car tax and insurance for the time the car was actually on the road and being driven, sadly it of course doesn't work like that.
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