Scuse me butting in.....from memory, if you get a water softener in the UK, then you should have one tap at least that will deliver hard water. This is for cleaning your teeth. Soft water doesn't clean your teeth properly. That could lead to gum disease. Gum disease and heart disease are closely related.

Once you've got the system clean, you might like to try one of these:

http://www.ecoflow.com/h2-flow-cat-3...-18-product-31

There is also this: http://www.blancajobs.com/index.php?pg=41

I used to be a distributor in the UK for ecoflow products, they work well. I brought a few water treatment magnets to Australia with me for use at home.

Just to say, I no longer have any financial interest in the company at all.

I don't think it has anything to do with cleaning your teeth.

The reason that a separate tap is recommended in the UK is that the sodium level in the water can increase but actually it is such a small increase that it can safely be ignored.

Another case of over reaction to the salt in diet problem!

I have heard of these. Can you give us a rough dummies guide to how they work?
many thanks

Try this: http://www.ecomagnets.com/h2flow-facts.htm

Just the job, I understood that site.
Many thanks.

At first glance that site looks completely bonkers. I'll do some finding out.

ETA looks dodgy here. I would be wary about spending any money on magnetic water treatment.

As the site you gave shows, there is little evidence that these magnetic systems are effective. From what I have read, you are more likely to gain some benefit from the mains powered magnets as they are more powerful (and much more expensive) than the bolt on Ecoflow devices.

It may be worth noting that Ecoflow is a well know "Network Marketing" company where much of the distributor income arises from recruiting distributors.

Great, just when you think you are getting somewhere
That site is as usefull as a chocolate teapot. You read through it and the bottom line is they don't know for sure, that's so helpfull.
Sorry, not a go at you jimenato.
Doctors hate the internet for just this reason. You get so befuddled by monton of info you end up non the wiser just worried to death.

The problem is that it's just not possible to PROVE that something DOESN'T work it's only ever possible to prove that it does. The burden of proof is always on the claimant to prove their claim. An independent tester would be very reluctant to say that something definitely doesn't work.

I look at it like this. If it is hard to prove anything really does work, then the effect must, if at all real, be very hard to spot. It therefore isn't worth paying for.

In a former life I worked at the top of an organisation with estate around the World and had this kind of device looked at very carefully by some very bright people in my organisation and also water consultants from outside the organisation. We could find no evidence that it worked in any way.

However my son has bought a newbuild flat in a very hard water area and the builder has installed one of this type (mains powered) on the incoming supply I am monitoring the effects on one electrical heated shower and one shower off the gas heated water supply. My worry is if it does not work the electrical shower will clog up internally and need renewal. We can and do clean the shower heads and roses with vinegar. Only time will tell and it could be quite some time we are only one year in.

We are in a pretty hard water area. I just use a shower rose with the rubber nipples. If calcite does build up in them you rub your thumb across them and it falls away.

Back to the vinegar then (without bicarb).

I tried it on my wood burners window yesterday, it worked, mind you it wasn't too bad before.