Goodbye Sky TV
#676
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From: Chiclana











I have been on Movistar Fusion for the last year and it made no difference to the speed, when I speak to Telefonica they say I can only get 1 mb, normally if I am lucky I get 2.56. They have no intention of upgrading, it is very annoying when I pay the same price as everyone else but get such an inferior system. I am going to be looking at other options when my year is up at the end of April. Using Film on is very hit and miss with stop start going on it gets impossible.
#677
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La Alternativa use a Wimax system over the airwaves; movistar use copper wires from poles or sometimes underground. If you use copper wires, then the distance from the distribution point has a bearing on the speed you can get.
#678
Wimax we had with aeromax was set at 2Mb, but we could have had 6 or more if we wanted. I was interrupted by bad weather from time to time unfortunately
#681
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From: conil de la frontera











There are a few different companies around now so I will be looking at all of them when it gets nearer to the end of my contract
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From: In the middle of 10million Olive Trees











the higher the resistance the harder it is for the signal to get through so the speed drops.
simples !!
the only thing that is "new" is that under the more relaxed rules than those of only a few years ago, the "newcomers" can install their boxes inside the exchanges of Movistar - but once it leaves there it is back to old copper.
sri its technical, but that is what it is all down to, it doesn't matter a jot how much you have spent on the kit in the house and what you are promised by some guy down the road - its all down to copper cable and basic physics and the distance you are from the last repeater.
hth
#683
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very true, as telephone cable is always thin, and the system is designed to carry telephonic voice (in the UK using 50v supply) on an audio frequency to about 3,500hz it is all old technology. But the thin wires also have high resistance, this gets worse the further you are from the source sub-box.
sri its technical, but that is what it is all down to, it doesn't matter a jot how much you have spent on the kit in the house and what you are promised by some guy down the road - its all down to copper cable and basic physics and the distance you are from the last repeater.
hth
sri its technical, but that is what it is all down to, it doesn't matter a jot how much you have spent on the kit in the house and what you are promised by some guy down the road - its all down to copper cable and basic physics and the distance you are from the last repeater.
hth
If Telefonica can´t get it faster / better, then neither can they
Davexf
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Joined: Jun 2011
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From: In the middle of 10million Olive Trees











Can I add that it doesn´t matter which company you swap to for your internet/phone (unless they are going to put their own cables in), as the cable is the same, you can´t get a faster speed no matter what they say.
If Telefonica can´t get it faster / better, then neither can they
Davexf
If Telefonica can´t get it faster / better, then neither can they
Davexf
But it COSTS to build an infrastructure.
#685
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From: Sanlucar de Guadiana

All ITV, Channel 4, including Film 4, plus TCM have gone overnight. However, TCM+1 still works.
#687
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Joined: Mar 2006
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very true, as telephone cable is always thin, and the system is designed to carry telephonic voice (in the UK using 50v supply) on an audio frequency to about 3,500hz it is all old technology. But the thin wires also have high resistance, this gets worse the further you are from the source sub-box.
the higher the resistance the harder it is for the signal to get through so the speed drops.
simples !!
the only thing that is "new" is that under the more relaxed rules than those of only a few years ago, the "newcomers" can install their boxes inside the exchanges of Movistar - but once it leaves there it is back to old copper.
sri its technical, but that is what it is all down to, it doesn't matter a jot how much you have spent on the kit in the house and what you are promised by some guy down the road - its all down to copper cable and basic physics and the distance you are from the last repeater.
hth
the higher the resistance the harder it is for the signal to get through so the speed drops.
simples !!
the only thing that is "new" is that under the more relaxed rules than those of only a few years ago, the "newcomers" can install their boxes inside the exchanges of Movistar - but once it leaves there it is back to old copper.
sri its technical, but that is what it is all down to, it doesn't matter a jot how much you have spent on the kit in the house and what you are promised by some guy down the road - its all down to copper cable and basic physics and the distance you are from the last repeater.
hth
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In all fairness, we live in the campo, but the landline internet in our office in Palma died as often as once per week for an hour or so. Still, I would expect there must be some landlines in city centers that are reliable.
Yet, we haven't had those problems with WIMAX so far...
Also, I find WIMAX as the only "alternative" that is suitable for VoIP telephony. 3G, 4G and satellite have up to 1 second latency, and you can't carry on a conversation that way.
Last edited by amideislas; Feb 10th 2014 at 9:50 pm.
#689
We find WIMAX to be about 1000% more reliable than a landline. Our landline internet at home died every day for some period of time.
In all fairness, we live in the campo, but the landline internet in our office in Palma died as often as once per week for an hour or so. Still, I would expect there must be some landlines in city centers that are reliable.
Yet, we haven't had those problems with WIMAX so far...
Also, I find WIMAX as the only "alternative" that is suitable for VoIP telephony. 3G, 4G and satellite have up to 1 second latency, and you can't carry on a conversation that way.
In all fairness, we live in the campo, but the landline internet in our office in Palma died as often as once per week for an hour or so. Still, I would expect there must be some landlines in city centers that are reliable.
Yet, we haven't had those problems with WIMAX so far...
Also, I find WIMAX as the only "alternative" that is suitable for VoIP telephony. 3G, 4G and satellite have up to 1 second latency, and you can't carry on a conversation that way.
http://www.broadband4spain.com/documents/24.html.
I realise it needs an antenna and permissions will be needed for that for non-villa owners. Which is a drag.....
..... But its pricing is good, the speed should be enough to get TV, even HD, its unlimited and great for us personally, as you are not tied to a contract yearly, meaning for non full time residents, one can 'switch it off' and then re-engage when you are there.. a kind of Pay as you go (sort of) model.
If this works half as good as the ads, and we can get reception in CE, it may be the best option for many people, us included.. to get TV, and do other stuff. For us (personally) non-heavy users, if we can stream TV without problems then its all we need to do other stuff we need to do online - kind of like a benchmark for us.
The TMN 3G dongle is so far the best non-permanent use internet Ive seen in Europe, and works for us - but BB4S sounds like it may be even better... IF we can get the signal (+permissions etc) - and it actually works in this corner of Spain
Thanks
Jon
#690
[quote=Jon-Bxl;11125891]Hi Has anybody used this in Costa Esuri, please?
ignore my last post - mix up between http://bb4s.com/ and broadband4spain.com%
ignore my last post - mix up between http://bb4s.com/ and broadband4spain.com%
Last edited by maccro; Feb 12th 2014 at 12:02 am. Reason: updating info



